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From: om/cf
To: Marie
Date: Sat Nov 23 00:32:42 2002

Message:
I'd gladly retreat to the days when gum was a problem and "so 
and so" wouldn't share.

From: Facts Finder
To: OM/Cf
Subject: Chewing gum
Date: Sat Nov 23 01:34:23 2002

Message:
Huh? What do you mean, I don't understand. We do not have 
chewing gum here. Heard they want to lift the banned but I 
doubt so. 

From: Everyman
To: Facts Finder
Subject: What?!? No Chewing Gum??
Date: Sat Nov 23 03:05:44 2002

Message:
That's kind of strange.  Too many people leaving it on the 
ground, or what?  (did I miss something here?)

When my eighth grade teacher caught someone chewing gum she 
would draw a circle on the chalkboard & then said 'culprit' 
would have to put the gum on the end of their nose & stand on 
tip toes with their nose in the circle until the end of class.  
Unfortunate for the ones that got caught during roll call!

From: arafat
To: followers
Date: Sat Nov 23 05:28:45 2002

Message:
does anyone have any razor blades?

From: Follower
To: Arafat
Subject: Blades
Date: Sat Nov 23 05:34:04 2002

Message:
Why ? Do you want to shave or slit your throat.

From: Facts Finder
To: Everyman
Subject: Chewing gum
Date: Sat Nov 23 06:49:11 2002

Message:
Yes chewing gum was ban more than 10 years ago, but there are 
people who still buy and smuggle in for their own consumtion. 
If go they have to pay a very heavy fine.

At first there were a lot of disagreement to the ban but now 
everyone find that it was the right move, yes chewing gums 
customers are more to the younger generation and they would 
throw it anywhere or stick it in elevator, train doors and etc. 
This has cause a lot of headache for authority. When the gum 
are thrown on the floor after sometime they become black and so 
it destroy the beauty of the pavement. Anyone caught chewing 
gum will be ask to surrender the balance and throw it away. If 
you are caught throwing or sticking the gums anywhere you will 
be charge for vandalising and that can be quite heavy.

Basically, it just a habit, like cigarrette. When I was young I 
use to chew gum too. Now lesser people are chewing. Those that 
still chew are mainly tourists. Yes they will be warn if they 
are caught and their passport will be taken for future 
reference if they are caught again.

Have a wonderful weekend. Peace be with you.

From:
To:
Date: Sat Nov 23 08:36:10 2002

Message:
BAN ALL RELIGION

From: Bush
To: You
Date: Sat Nov 23 08:42:25 2002

Message:
Im going to the toilett
and you are with me,if not you are against me!  

From: Bush
To: You
Date: Sat Nov 23 08:44:40 2002

Message:
Im going to a gaybar
and you are with me,if not you are against me!

From: Bush
To: You
Date: Sat Nov 23 08:46:30 2002

Message:
Im going to fuck mr Powel
and you are with me,if not you are against me!

From: Bush
To: You
Date: Sat Nov 23 09:00:39 2002

Message:
Im going to destroy my country
and you are with me,if not you are against me

From: Bush
To: You
Date: Sat Nov 23 09:02:33 2002

Message:
Im going to destroy the demokracy
and you are with me,if not you are against me!

From:
To:
Subject: NIMRODS
Date: Sat Nov 23 09:09:39 2002

Message:
JIMMY CARTER BILL CLINTON TOM DASCHLE  AL GORE

From:
To:
Subject: Nimrods
Date: Sat Nov 23 09:22:05 2002

Message:
You just listed the top four problems with the democratic party

From: om/cf
To: Fact Finders
Subject: gum
Date: Sat Nov 23 09:48:51 2002

Message:
I thought I read somewhere last week that the law in Singapore 
was changed so gum was available with a doctor's prescription. 
Of coarse in the U.S., the big controversy is the medical use of 
marijuana.

From: sa27
To: MADDOX
Date: Sat Nov 23 13:22:06 2002

Message:
AWWW, that's so sad. You are the typical whiner we have at my 
school. "I need a better computer! come on, it's so important! 
us nerds know exactly what's best for the school." In case you 
can't tell...Americans like football!! High school football 
makes lots of money: add together concessions, admission, and 
merchandise. How can computers make the school money? hmm... new 
computers are thousands of dollars, internet access, new 
programs. Seems that computers are more of a drain than a help. 
So, to sum up...take your little weiner out of the floppy drive, 
and quit bitching about how jocks get more attention to you. Oh, 
and by the way...If you really think that sports don't pay off, 
then simply take a look at Kobe Braynt's house.

From: Facts Finder
To: Om/Cf
Subject: Chewing gum
Date: Sat Nov 23 15:06:33 2002

Message:
Yes I heard of it too, but not quite sure of the story. I miss 
that article. I am sure they are not putting back on the 
shelves. Maybe gum for people to exercise their jaw on medical 
purpose.

Like in my case, would you believe I could not open my jaw to 
bite the thickness of a cigarette box, so no hambugrger for me. 
If I were to eat burger, I have to seperately it into 3 
sections, the bread, the meat and the bread again. This was 
cause by the radio therapy. So far doctors have not offer me 
Wrigleys (is this the correct spelling for that famous chewing 
gum?)

From: North Carolina Gal
To: om/cf
Date: Sat Nov 23 16:29:51 2002

Message:
I wish they would legalize marijuana for medical use here. I 
have Multiple Sclerosis and have heard that it helps, But me 
being the chicken I haven't used it! If it were legal I woud in 
a heartbeat....

From: om/cf
To: NC Gal
Date: Sat Nov 23 17:54:06 2002

Message:
Good to hear from you. I had no idea you had M.S. A very good 
friend of mine since childhood was diagnosed with M.S. ten years 
back and he hasn't tried it either. I've heard marijuana helps 
cancer chemo patients cope with the nausea. Its insane - doctors 
will pump all kinds of manufactured narcotic painkillers into 
people but a naturally occuring plant is off limits.

From: Fact Finder
To: Om/Cf and NC Gal
Date: Sat Nov 23 20:13:18 2002

Message:
Yes nice to hear from you too NC Gal, Sorry to hear that. I 
don't know anything about MS. As for cancer, nowadays they 
inject a certain medicine to help prevent nausea but still some 
people still had that problem. I do not know what the medicine 
is. It might be marijuana. During my chemo treatment, I just 
had very mild nausea no vomitting. Maybe it was my experience 
with Marijuana during my teenage days. I know the doctor would 
spray cocaine into your nose to numb it to check inside.


From: Facts Finder
To: All
Date: Sat Nov 23 20:26:05 2002

Message:
Did you guys saw the interview in BBC regarding Iraq. I cannot 
remember their names. You can see the Iraqi minister is trying 
to win support from the world by repeating that the US attack 
on Hiroshima, Nagasaki and vietnam using weapon of mass 
destruction especially those countries that has doubt.

I just hope that the people wathching understand why US have to 
use those weapon? EVeryone should know that after the bombing 
in Japan the world war ended and the world was at peace again.

As for vietnam, I don't think US did use it full force as they 
did in Gulf War. If they did I don't think the Vietcont (North 
Vietnam) stand a chance. US was fighting with their hand tied 
and they learn from that mistake.

I just hope the media play a more responsible role before 
allowing that kind of statement to be made. You can see that 
the Iraqi minister was laughing behind.

From: u |<now who
To: NC GAL
Date: Sat Nov 23 23:28:47 2002

Message:
things are about to get scary on the board, are u in for the 
long hall? tell me what scares you?

From:
To: u |<now who
Date: Sun Nov 24 00:57:15 2002

Message:
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So much power
A messege bord
What a little boy

From: u turn
To: u/<now who
Date: Sun Nov 24 05:58:12 2002

Message:
Student loan people are the scariest people on earth.       
       

From: Comment
To: Facts Finder
Subject: Media
Date: Sun Nov 24 07:53:50 2002

Message:
In regards to what you here on the media , I wouldn't put too 
much faith in their ability to use discretion. The fact is they 
will do anything to promote good ratings. You have to keep in 
mind that CNN is a very liberal cable news network and FOX is 
conservitive but either one of them would do anything for 
ratings. Thw truth lies somewhere in between these two media 
giants.

From:
To:
Date: Sun Nov 24 09:30:55 2002

Message:
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From:
To:
Date: Sun Nov 24 09:32:18 2002

Message:
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From:
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Date: Sun Nov 24 09:42:16 2002

Message:
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From: Void
To:
Date: Sun Nov 24 09:35:42 2002

Message:
thousands of years ago stargate technology of the Gods was lost. 
Mayan Prophecy says it will return by 2012, along with our 
alignment with the center of our galaxy, the secret missing 
library of jesus, and the Exotic Elixer.

From: A Pissed of American
To:
Date: Wed Nov 21 00:11:31 2001

Message:
Didnt you ever notice that all terroists come from that shit 
hole they call the middle east. Maybe not all of them but a 
lot. If you dont want to go kick the shit out of them 
sandmonkeys then you crazy. We have so much power. Just go over 
there and drop a ouple of h-boimbs and stuff and then our 
problem is sovled. So the people that we wont stand for any of 
their bullshit antics. It might also set an example for anyone 
else who might want to pull some stupid ass stunt like this

From:
To:
Date: Sun Nov 24 11:37:15 2002

Message:
dfgdfgdgdfgdfgdfgdfgdfgdfgdfgdgdfgdgdfgfdg

From: Facts Finder
To: Comments
Date: Sun Nov 24 12:04:00 2002

Message:
yes I do agree, I don't really put much attenction to the 
media, CNN, BBC and etc. I view situation around the world with 
my own eyes, ears and understanding. Sometime I do feel tha 
maybe the western media was a little against the Muslims but 
with actual facts and figure. I can relized


But what I know for sure is that the Western media have not 
call for death to the Muslims or whatever to retaliate the 
killing of innocent civllians.

I would appreciate if some muslim would give me a reason what 
what is happening around the world today.

From: Walter
To: A Pissed of American
Date: Sun Nov 24 13:58:38 2002

Message:
Great!Now,have you joined the military yet?Or are you planning 
to go over there on your own?Please let us all know,because I'm 
sure you're not just sitting on your ASS,and telling others what 
THEY should do.
 

From: Get a grip
To: Walter
Date: Sun Nov 24 14:35:04 2002

Message:
Just a couple of H-Bombs... that's all, LOL!
  We have new ones that only kill sandmonkeys now! They have a x-
factor that can zero in on just the terrorists, and miss all the 
others. Just a little expensive considering. 

From: Get a grip
To: Facts Finder
Date: Sun Nov 24 14:40:30 2002

Message:
Muslims giving reason for what they are doing, fat chance. They 
are conditioned by their religion to beleive that they are fine 
to do what ever they want as long as it isn't against another 
muslim. So they think if they are painfull prickass dickheads, 
the rest of the world will just become Muslim to stop them from 
continuing their holy war. 
  I am not kidding you, this is the absolute height of Bigotry!
The Jews pale by comparison to the Muslim in the Muslim belief 
of self rightous MURDER. And all while pointing at the Christian 
and Jew, they spout their Satanic cult propaganda. 
  In a word .. Refromation is due! 
And mabye a couple of H-Bombs would do just that, but I doubt 
it. It takes being proven wrong for refromation to come, and 
it's coming. That you can rest assured is so. 

From: Everyman
To:
Date: Sun Nov 24 16:30:20 2002

Message:
Just caught part of a program where they were filming some 
nomadic group of Muslims; except the MEN had to wear veils.  The 
women could divorce their husbands; but the husbands cannot 
divorce their wives.  

Turnabout's fair play?

From: Everyman
To: Facts Finder
Date: Sun Nov 24 16:38:11 2002

Message:
My TMJ acts up when I chew gum;  I've heard it that you can get 
rid of hiccups when you chew it, though...

NC Gal  Yes, it's true--I've seen interviews with people who 
have MS who have used MJ and they've said it's changed their 
lives for the better.  One woman who had little mobility was 
able to get out of her wheelchair and function on a level she 
hadn't been able to before.   (sound a bit like Oral Roberts?)


From: North Carolina Gal
To: Everyman
Date: Sun Nov 24 17:22:42 2002

Message:
I have seen some of those interviews also, and I know a couple 
of people who swear by it. My problem is I haven't a clue where 
to even try and get it! I guess I could ask my kids but then I'd 
never hear the end of it...LOL

From: CC
To: All
Date: Sun Nov 24 17:35:42 2002

Message:
What a %$^%$ joke.
Are you Americans really that pissed that one of Chretiens aids 
called Bush a Moron in a private conversation.
Come on!
We all know that Bush is a moron.
 

From: Walter
To: CC
Date: Sun Nov 24 18:34:28 2002

Message:
No,we all pray he's PRETENDING to be that be that stupid to 
fool the"EVILDOERS".

From: a drunk fuckin midget
To: you people
Subject: walter
Date: Sun Nov 24 19:17:59 2002

Message:
walter has serious problems, try and be thoughtful 

From: Walter
To: CC
Date: Sun Nov 24 19:27:29 2002

Message:
Also,according to Homeland Security Act,Section V (4)(c),any 
conversation with persons from a foreign nation not pertaining to
(a)the greatness of our national leaders,or
(b)the understanding that Americans are the most compassionate 
people in the world;may be seen as a subversive act,subject to a 
fine of up to $250,000,or 25 years imprisonment.*

*does not apply to members of U.S.government on missions to 
sell/giveaway military secrets and/or weapons to members of 
foreign nations.

 If you want to talk in the future,leave your living room light 
on,with the shades 2/3 drawn,and I'll get in touch at 11P.M.the 
following evening.
 Must stop now:I'm going to go to the special bunker I've built 
in my basement,in order to smoke a cigarette,and pray that it 
cannot be detected by my neighbors,who might find the smoke 
offensive,and sue(as happened recently in New Jersey).

              LET FREEDOM RING!   UNITED WE STAND!

From: om/cf
To: CC
Date: Sun Nov 24 19:33:06 2002

Message:
Im not pissed in the least at childish name calling. I always 
consider the scource ;-) It seems Chretien jumped to Bush's 
defence but then again he also loved golfing with Clintgigelo. 
What a ass-sucking leech! I sure hope that statement doesn't 
offend any of my Canadien friends.

From: om/cf
To: CC
Date: Sun Nov 24 21:21:29 2002

Message:
I must explain what I mean by "condsider the scource". Have you 
seen a pic of communications director, Francoise Ducros? WOW! I 
bet she don't wander too far off into the woods without getting 
shot at....and I thought Janet Reno was the last living 
bigfoot/sasqtwatch....if only Michelle Jackass had the strength 
to dangle one of those beasts from a fourth floor balcony.....

From: Get a grip
To: NC Gal
Subject: The price of a good smoke
Date: Sun Nov 24 21:34:26 2002

Message:
The price of ciggeretts is getting close to the price of MJ! 
Around $50.00 a carton in some states. Funny thing is they say 
they are trying to stop the terrible things that tobacco does to 
us, yet cars kill more people daily, stink up the air more, 
leave people diabled and the EPA and NHTSA can't seem to stop 
car ads or even begin to stop deisel emissions that cause acid 
rain and cancer. 
  "every time I plant a seed, he says kill it before it grows"
                

From: om/cf
To: all
Date: Sun Nov 24 21:58:12 2002

Message:
I understand some religious groups are putting out commercials 
trying to twist the arms of big SUV owners with such wonderful 
propoganda as "what would Jesus drive"? Has anyone seen ne of 
these ads? I'd imagine Jesus would NEED a large gas-guzzling 
vehicle for the disciples and followers. Im thinkin' 27 to 34 
foot Motor Home, sleeps 6 my ass, (sleeping bags on the floor).

From: Walter
To: om/cf
Date: Sun Nov 24 23:49:30 2002

Message:
Wow!!!Can you imagine the fun you could have with a Jet-Ski,AND 
the ability to walk on water?AND a motor home?Who CARES how much 
gasoline costs,if you can turn water into wine.......why not 
into gas?

 And for Moses?40 years of wandering turned into 12 hours,and 
straight into Cairo,on 1 tank of gas!5 SUV's,with everybody all 
squashed together behind on flatbed trailers......

From: jackie
To: Nations of Nations
Subject: Peace Be Still
Date: Mon Nov 25 05:47:35 2002

Message:
Advocates among nations, wisdom who take counsel for the nations 
of the earth.
Enhance the world knowledge of your love. All those who come in 
the name of the Almighty God, peace be still play not in the 
hands of satin and destroy Gods creations. Hope have mercy 
salvation, charity have mercy, love have mercy.
Allah is love, Allah is peace, Allah the creator of all the 
Universe.
Be aware of the trick analogy that satins sets forth for man 
kind.
The warning of Allah our God. Disobediences that sets forth the 
destruction of the world. There will be accountability for all 
man who trample on Gods creations. 


There shall be no winners in this war, death is death when any 
life is taken. 
Illusions of the mind when any one think that there will be a 
winner. 
Reigning of man sight, visioning mans theory of right.  Man that 
falls in the devil hands even after the warning of God, Allah 
all in one has given.
God is God, man is man. The virus snake that runs foe to foe.
Un clean thoughts that plague thy nations of God s creations. 
Tainted by satins demands. Murder is Murder one of God s 
commandments which man refuse to  live, trampling on God s 
creations.    

Men of all nations who wear the cloak, there will be only one 
winner on this earth, that is the almighty God. Which spoke man 
shall destroy its self.
Pimping minister thank you Jesus devil all those who come in the 
cloak of the hypocritical oath which they live upon all nations. 

May Allah our God faithfulness, be merciful to those who tamper 
with his creations. 
Every man shall feel the whip of thy God. Proclaim messages the 
source of peace that those come in the name of thy almighty God 
of all nations of the universe.
There shall be no second chances, battlefields of blood wasted, 
Greed and ignorance, descendants who brought great wealth, 
weakness of man, no man falls without shame. I reclaim the name 
of love, and good grace, be gone satin there is no rightful 
place for you upon this earth. Imbibing the spoken words of our 
God Allah, Children of the earth who disgrace the commandments 
of our almighty God Allah.
Derisions, of the holy grounds, the symbols of emblems that set 
before, the devil as he steals from the universes. The sounds of 
the roars of thunder, the ancient dust, have return. Open 
lynching, of the spoken words, will be deleted.

I ancient dust cry no more; Thy Allah our God shall return to 
claim his rightful Universe. Cry not for thy self, cry for the 
world, as it self destruct. Trampling on Allah our God s 
creations.  Spirits of thoughts, the birth of wisdom, 
spirituality, understandings, creations, life, death, love, 
cries of the earth. God that lives among, us all, the evolution 
of men. The man the great tool of civilization, which he stands.

Deterring, the responsibilities of mankind, the one, who stands 
behind, the treasures, of wisdom knowledge and understanding of 
Gods great love.
Sanctuary of all God s begging, the honor which is given to God.
Not taking any glory for self, sing the glory, of one creator, 
which is Allah our God.
Words not needed, the human kindness of the spirits, thoughts to 
conform great men, Wisdom, Knowledge, Understanding, words 
spoken from the heart. Its not man on the mountain, but the 
mountain, within the heart. Intellectual compelling of who s 
who, and its contributions of the earth, spiritual laws, which 
feel, my cup of the universe, empowerment of understanding, 
precondition of man, which thirst for God s throne, holy 
retellings, without fulfillment of the soul. My eyes, are 
blinded, by the using of love, The might the power has no honor, 
if the light has no halo of it s own thoughts.


In this prison, all the pretense of unity, who are they? Shades 
of insanity, listen as they destroy self. No humanity, insanity 
slips into the oh say can you see. Give me liberty are give me 
death. Can you hear, the bellowing of sin, calamity that no 
longer embrace truth. As the Oh say can you see. Cries with the 
torch, darkness, why have thou forsaken me. Can you hear the 
fading, celestial strings, Every man for self, don t blank. I 
want your bank account. Quiet as I speak. There is no justice, 
when it refuses to link, my account number, where I bank. Crying 
out to the ever lasting one. In the hope of vocal response. 
Pressures, placed upon the Universe.
Killing ones on self. Feed the people, Reverse Psychology, 
Satins plot.
Society programmed, infinity, exterminations, life, mama the man 
in the mask, is trying to kill me. Paradise my prison, 
Capitalistic dysfunctions,, Psychological lynching of all Gods 
children.


Self defeating, emotional extremist, dare savor momentary, 
mental genocide, exhale, you are breathing toxins, death by ones 
on hand, give me liberty are give me death. Instruments of 
carnal freedom, instant death  cloning the sip of death, 
confusions, who am I that lives? Servants to the serpents, who 
swears by oath, sophisticated , death by ones on hand.

From: Get a grip
To: Om/Cf
Subject: And a dose for the holy roller
Date: Mon Nov 25 08:49:13 2002

Message:
I have to really reach to understand the thinking of the kind of 
shit head that has 15 or more children and not a dime to raise 
them on. This is the same piney ass shit for brains rug kisser 
that straps a bomb and becomes the walking death of his 
generation. Finding his wives tapped out and haggard he stomps 
around like a two year old with rocks in his shoes and can't 
stand the thought that his Mullah is raping his ass for every 
dime while stuffing him full of pedophile Bigoted Dogma. Rather 
than face the truth that he has been royally screwed and used in 
a plot to over populate the world and deplete its resources and 
cause a paper war, he commits suicide. It is a reach to 
understand and who do you really blame? This poor brainwashed 
hopeless excuse for a human that has been wielded into a pawn 
for the global world order? And is the self-righteous twit for a 
child with a cell phone, Xbox and face full of Doritos and 
alcohol really any different? He has MTV, and Daddy's new bmw to 
take out on Friday night, thinking his college grad diploma will 
buy him a cushy 9 to 5 job writing code for the next version of 
windows XP and can't take his mind off of the cunt he thinks 
will be his future bride. All the while unknowing that he is 
programmed and brainwashed into thinking all this, and depleting 
the world resources as well to start a paper war, yet his future 
is really going to be a sad divorce or two and a job fixing 
rundown cars at the used car lot his uncle biff owns. 
    Still a reach to understand. 
           So who do we blame?
Michael Jackson or the faggot who made up the Macarena?  

From: Merlyn
To: Holy Roller
Subject: Belief in GOD
Date: Mon Nov 25 08:52:47 2002

Message:
The first step to self-deception is to separate your self from 
GOD and Goddess, (The Creator and Mother Nature). You preach 
about the raping of the earth. Monotheism is the raping of the 
earth and the road to SATIN, for Allah is SATIN. 
  We MUST return to our maker, Mother Earth, one way or another 
we will, by faith or as fertile soil for everlasting life. 
               Allah IS Satin! Any divorce from our life so that 
men can assume divinity is utter failure and strips us of life. 
               No man is god unless all men are god. Woman is as 
venerable as man and to deny her importance is to be ignorant of 
our very nature and to be in denial. 
                        /|\

From:
To:
Date: Mon Nov 25 11:36:31 2002

Message:
Usama Bin Laden seen in Saudi Arabia.

From:
To:
Date: Mon Nov 25 11:37:53 2002

Message:
Along with Elvis Presley

From:
To:
Date: Mon Nov 25 11:41:57 2002

Message:
Osama Bin Laden was last seen eating a cheese burger with fries

From:
To:
Date: Mon Nov 25 14:18:54 2002

Message:
islam , religion of murderers

From: Justice
To: all
Subject: classic
Date: Mon Nov 25 14:23:48 2002

Message:
-I like big cars, big boats, big motorcycles, big houses and big
campfires. I believe the money I make belongs to me and my 
family, not some governmental stooge with a bad comb-over who 
wants to give it away to crack addicts for squirting out babies.

-Guns do not make you a killer. I think killing makes you a 
killer. You can kill someone with a baseball bat or a car, but 
no one is trying to ban you from driving to the ball game.

-I believe they are called the Boy Scouts for a reason, that is 
why there are no girls allowed. Girls belong in the Girl Scouts!

-I think that if you feel homosexuality is wrong, it is not a 
phobia, it is an opinion.

- I don't think being a minority makes you a victim of anything 
except numbers. The only things I can think of that are truly 
discriminatory are things like the United Negro College Fund, 
Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment Television, and Miss Black 
America. Try to have things like the United Caucasian College 
Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss 
White America and see what happens. Jesse Jackson will be 
knocking down your door.

-I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are
different, weird, or tick me off.

-When 70% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities 
where 70% of the population is black, that's not racial 
profiling, it is the law of statistics.

-I know what sex is, and there are not varying degrees of it. If 
I received sex from one of my subordinates in my office, it 
wouldn't be a private matter or my personal business. I would 
be "FIRED" immediately!

-I believe that if you are selling me a milk shake, a pack of 
cigarettes, a newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in 
English! As a matter of fact, if you want to be an American 
citizen you should have to speak English!. My father and 
grandfather shouldn't have to die in vain so you can leave the 
countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours.

-I think the police should have every right to shoot your sorry 
ass if you threaten them after they tell you to stop. If you 
can't understand the word "freeze" or "stop" in English, see the 
above lines.

-I feel much safer letting a machine with no political 
affiliation recount votes when needed. I know what the 
definition of lying is.

-I don't think just because you were not born in this country, 
you are qualified for any special loan programs, government 
sponsored bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can open a 
hotel, coffee shop, trinket store, or any other business. We did 
not go to the aid of certain foreign countries and risk our 
lives in wars to defend their freedoms so that decades later 
they could come over here and tell us our constitution is a 
living document and open to their interpretations.

-I don't hate the rich. I don't pity the poor. I know wrestling 
is fake, but so are movies and television, and that doesn't stop 
you from watching them.

-I believe a self-righteous liberal or conservative with a cause 
is more dangerous than a Hell's Angel with an attitude.

-I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made 
and continue to make more. If it ticks you off, go and invent 
the next operating system that's better and put your name on the 
building.  Ask your buddy that invented the Internet to help you.

-It doesn't take a whole village to raise a child right, but it 
does take a parent to stand up to the kid and smack their little 
ass' when necessary and say "NO".

-I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but 
please don't pretend they are a political statement. And Please 
stay home until that new lip ring heals, I don't want to look at 
your ugly infected mouth as you serve me fries!

-I am sick of "Political Correctness" and of all the suck ups 
that go along with it. I know a lot of black people, and not a 
single one of them was born in Africa, so how can they 
be "African-Americans"?  Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't 
go around saying I am a European-American because my great, 
great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from Europe. I 
am proud to be from America and nowhere else.

From: American
To: Justice
Date: Mon Nov 25 14:44:35 2002

Message:
BRAVO!!

From: betton
To: lola
Subject: mmm.
Date: Tue May 21 11:20:18 2002

Message:
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From: betton
To: lola
Subject: mmm.
Date: Tue May 21 11:20:18 2002

Message:
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From: betton
To: lola
Subject: mmm.
Date: Tue May 21 11:20:18 2002

Message:
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From: Walter
To: Holy Roller
Date: Mon Nov 25 15:31:20 2002

Message:
Do not let a group of Godless freaks tell you what you should 
believe.These same people who tell you not to believe in a 
God,or his Son,don't hesitate to fall to their knees in front of 
a rock,or a tree,or a"special"gerbil.
 These are the very same people who aren't intelligent enough to 
understand why Americans are hated around the globe,who have 
been so involved in their own interests,that they have never 
paid the least attention to the world around them.Until they've 
been attacked;then they blubber all the catch-phrases they've 
learned from TV from the rooftops.
 If these same people were hidden behind a curtain,you would not 
be able to tell the difference between them,and a group of 
terrorists,they both have the same ideology:kill every citizen 
in the nations THEY don't like.....and fuck all the innocent 
people.These same people will tell you in the same breath how 
much they value children.......
 But you will notice a major difference,if you listen to them 
long enough:most of them are unwilling to fight and die for ANY 
cause:their way of life,their country,or their family.They have 
never believed in anything,and will do anything to encourage you 
to lose your faith in God,and in yourself.

From: Get a grip
To: Walter
Subject: Muslims
Date: Mon Nov 25 16:08:11 2002

Message:
(Allah is love, Allah is peace, Allah the creator of all the 
Universe.)
 Definition; Allah, God of Gods.
   >Oxymoron<

Jesus said it best, his message is clear. He is the son of the 
Mother Mary, and the creator; our Father, born of the womb of 
the mother (earth), born on the first day of the Winter Solstice 
(Yule), reborn on the coming of Imbolc (candlemas). He is the 
hope of man kind and the living proof of Gods will. He underwent 
near death to bring forgivness to mankind. He was a man above 
all men in his devotion and faith. He prayed on a rock, he 
needed no temple.  
    May his blessing be with you 
           And all of us

From:
To:
Date: Mon Nov 25 16:31:33 2002

Message:
There will be no war with Iraq

From: Walter
To: Holy Roller
Date: Mon Nov 25 17:09:47 2002

Message:
Non-religionists will be quick to point out to you that 
religion is the largest cause of human suffering and wars on 
this planet.Nothing could be further than the truth.
 The time when the influence of the church was at its lowest,is 
known to every historian as the Dark Ages,when human misery and 
suffering was at its greatest.It was also in this same age that 
the Black Plague(Black Death)occured,which killed off 1 out of 
every 3 in Europe.One reason that the Black Plague was able to 
kill so many,can be attributed to the belief of witchcraft.Along 
with many other attributes,it was widely believed that a witch 
could change into a cat at will,and it was believed that cats 
were the main companions of witches.
 As a result,cats along with witches were killed to keep evil 
away from the various villages.
 When the Black Plague occured,the disease(now known as Bubonic 
plague) was carried by rats,which were able to multiply so 
readily,and spread the disease so quickly,mainly because of the 
absence of cats,their natural enemy.

From:
To:
Date: Mon Nov 25 18:05:49 2002

Message:
(Non-religionists will be quick to point out to you that 
religion is the largest cause of human suffering and wars on 
this planet.)

Another bull shit Walter truth.
Walter you are so full of shit. It is the RELIGIOUS Muslim that 
is blaming the Christian, Jew, and any other RELIGION for ALL 
THEIR SUFFERING. 

Shut the fuck up WALTER

From: Simon Templar
To:
Date: Mon Nov 25 18:29:19 2002

Message:
Religion is the what the weak minded use to explain their 
existence and motives in life.  They cannot have a thought 
process of their own so they follow an entity that has no 
physical evidence of existence and that no one has ever seen.  
Families are torn apart by it and wars are created because of it.

From: AMERICAN
To:
Subject: RELIGION
Date: Mon Nov 25 18:42:44 2002

Message:
BELIEVE WHAT THE HELL YOU WANT , JUST DON'T TRY TO FORCE IT ON 
OTHERS.

From: ezstreet
To: all
Subject: stock market
Date: Mon Nov 25 18:49:05 2002

Message:
Did you know the dumbest people on earth are stock analyst.

From:
To:
Date: Mon Nov 25 19:43:52 2002

Message:
Non-religionists is not a word, it's Walters new faith

From: Captain Crunch
To: Naval Academy
Subject: Cyber police!
Date: Mon Nov 25 20:27:18 2002

Message:
Now aint this the SHIT! 
 
Cmdr. Bill Spann, an academy spokesman, said Monday that an 
investigation into what material is on the computers is under 
way. He would not give any other details. 

Punishment for illegally possessing copyrighted material ranges 
from restrictions such as loss of leave to expulsion from the 
academy, Spann said.

The raid on dormitory rooms took place Thursday while midshipmen 
were in class, according to The (Annapolis) Capital, which 
reported the seizure on Saturday.

Each of the 4,000 midshipmen is issued a computer upon entering 
the academy. The cost is deducted from the midshipmen's monthly 
paychecks over the four years they are in school.


From: Walter
To:
Subject: Shut the fuck up WALTER
Date: Mon Nov 25 20:40:04 2002

Message:
Nope.I won't.Courtesy of the 1st Ammendment.
And by the way.......you are free to come and shut me up!!!
And I am free to tell you to suck me,PUNK!!!! LOL!!!

From: Angel
To: everyone
Date: Mon Nov 25 21:04:36 2002

Message:
We were put on the earth to care not heart people. People from 
the middle east shoud leve the U.S.A the fuck alone because we 
will stand together and fight! united we stand divided we fall 
as we say their is no way enyone will stop that. Are flag stands 
for freedome and their is no way enybody will stop that people 
should stop and tack one good look a everybody and everything we 
are free don't tack that for advantage of it stop and help the 
U.S.A. fight and if the middle east don't like it thay can fuck 
off.   

From: om/cf
To: Captian Crrrruuuuunch
Subject: Grrrrrrr.....
Date: Mon Nov 25 20:35:05 2002

Message:
I read about this the other day and it boggles my patrioticaly 
brainwashed mind. So what are America's best and brightest young 
soldiers left to train and fight for? Freedom? What freedom? 
Whose freedom?

I think the acadamy would be well served to offer a reasonable 
explanation for this action quickly, but Im not holding my 
breath. Why in the hell should ALL U.S. citizens 
constitutionally gauranteed rights be tossed in the name of "war 
on terrorism"? This is utter bullshit! Screw that "this is what 
happened in the dark ages" shit...lets get in the here and 
now...fuckin' whack job Muslims are responsible for damn near 
all violent, murderous terrorism all over this planet. AND, the 
most amazing thing is they make no bones about proclaiming their 
acts of such barbaric heathenism...part of their religion, their 
love of Allah!!! The so-called 'moderate' Muslims by keeping 
their mouths shut over such acts are co-conspiritors, and should 
be treated as such and summerily deported A.S.A. fucking P.

Ah, but instead we see the (wink-wink) homeland security gang 
ready to dip into EVERYONE'S personal affairs...they want to set 
up a mega data base computor system to track each and every 
store purchase made in America. Whether or not this can actually 
be done is not the point....its fucking insane to even consider 
such nonsense. Throw money in the wrong direction? The economy 
is in the dumpster, not because of 911...Hell No! Its in the 
fucking trash bin because we are reaping the rewards of some 
numbskulls and outright white-collar crooks (traitors far worse 
than Tailibunny Johnny) convincing (and greasing the palms of) 
our esteemed former Clintoon administration into signing off on 
the NAFTA bullshit and changing America to a service based 
economy, away from manufacturing....the jobs are STILL leaving 
this country every single day....and as Springsteen once 
said...they ain't comin' back.

WHEW!!! I am going to start manufacturing TIN FOIL HATS. These 
hats will protect American brains from electronic probes by the 
thought police ;-)

From: Walter
To: om/cf
Subject: Screw that "this is what happened in the dark ages" shit...
Date: Mon Nov 25 22:15:33 2002

Message:
We can stop talkin about the dark ages stuff when I stop seein 
posts like:We MUST return to our maker, Mother Earth, one way or 
another 
we will, by faith or as fertile soil for everlasting life.

That stuff is OK,but my posts are shit?I'll stick up for 
religion if I damn well fucking want to.

While I was posting SHIT like"watch what the U.S.will try to get 
away with after 9-11",you guys were all telling me how anti-
American I was......remember?And now it's all coming to pass.And 
you know what?If you think our government's fucking us now,you 
aint seen nothin yet!

From: Marie
To: om/cf
Subject: Chewing Gum
Date: Mon Nov 25 22:55:58 2002

Message:
I think I missed a few things in the last few days, Back to 
those good ol days ahhhhhhh werent they grand lol. I had no idea 
Chewing Gum was illegal in some Countries Heavens!

From: om/cf
To: Walter
Subject: Meow! Its THE cats, KILL the fucking cats......
Date: Mon Nov 25 22:53:25 2002

Message:
I didn't say your posts "are shit". I've got no problems with 
religion in general - I do have problems with Islam in 
particular though, and no one can blame CNN tv news for that 
because I don't have cable tv!!! TV bores me. Bush can beat 
around the Bush all he wants but I'd like to see one person post 
some facts that PROVES the nasty shit happening in the world 
today is NOT related in any way to the teachings of Islam.

Our goverments fucking us now? My ass must be numb, when did the 
goverment ever pull out? The only reason anyone considered your 
statements anti-American was the timing....Americans have always 
been 'the goverment is out to get us', at least where I come 
from. But there are times when greivences must be put aside, if 
only for awhile.





From: Marie
To: Justice
Subject: Classic!
Date: Mon Nov 25 23:07:12 2002

Message:
Amen!!!

From: Facts Finder
To: Marie
Date: Mon Nov 25 23:15:01 2002

Message:
I think Singapore is the only one that ban chewing gums. Do you 
know also that if you did not flush your toilet in public 
places after used, you can be fine too in my country. We live 
by the strick rules from our goverment but we are happy about 
it. Ofcourse littering is also an offence. In the beginning it 
was not so accepted but nowadays it seem it has done good for 
convenience of everyone and maintain the cleanliness of our 
country with all those ban and fine. You don't get people 
throwing litter around. Beautiful dustbin is provide everywhere 
for your convenience.

That's why they say my country is a "fine"  country. Two 
meaning to the word

From: Marie
To: om/cf
Subject: Grrrrr
Date: Mon Nov 25 23:32:55 2002

Message:
Ha! Maybe they should just tap the Muslims phones, computers, 
and mail. Udercover detectives watching EVERY Mosque! I agree we 
shouldnt have to lose OUR freedom because "The Muslims" are the 
ones who started all this crap. But "Foil Hats" lol I dont know 
if it would protect our brains or fry them!

From: Marie
To: Facts finder
Date: Mon Nov 25 23:48:52 2002

Message:
Not Flushing the toilet is a fine in Singapore? Oh Damn! Now 
how can they tell who entered or left the public toilet last? Do 
they have "Potty Police"? Lmao! Yeah my Country takes littering 
VERY seriously, you cant spit on the sidewalk (if the police see 
you) without getting a fine! It's very interesting to me to see 
what is Acceptable or Non-Acceptable behavior in other countries!

From: Walter
To: om/cf
Date: Mon Nov 25 23:56:30 2002

Message:
I'm not exactly religious,but I wanted to show that even when 
you take religion out of the equation,things don't get any 
better.

Our goverments fucking us now? My ass must be numb, when did the 
goverment ever pull out?_________________________________________

Good point.LOL!!

And you're right,it IS a religious war,from the Muslim point of 
view.And if enough of them get told all the perks they're gonna 
get from Allah if they destroy the U.S.,they're going to do 
everything they can to fullfil their mission,and we don't 
operate or think the same way.We are unlikely to go into Muslim 
homes and slaughter women and children,but they wouldn't 
hesitate for a second to do that to us.
 Any kind of kindness or decency towards them is veiwed by them 
as a sign of weakness.They are in a position to cause a lot of 
damage,and our society and courts are not prepaired to deal with 
that here.If they come into your home,and you kill them,be 
prepaired to face a prison sentence,and if you wound them,be 
prepaired to die.I've been reading up on all the new laws,and it 
makes me wonder when they're speaking on Homeland Security,whos 
homland are they talking about?Not mine.

From: Marie
To:
Date: Tue Nov 26 00:37:57 2002

Message:
I know one thing, if they come into my home and try to kill my 
family, and I kill them, I CALL THAT SELF DEFENCE!!!! Then we 
will have to get into the inquest stuff and I'll have to enter 
the "Right to Bare and keep Arms" and all that but I betcha I 
get away with it! Lmao!

From: Walter
To: Marie
Date: Tue Nov 26 00:43:48 2002

Message:
So will I,but you should see some of the recent laws passed on 
using"extreme force"as they call it.You can beat it,but I don't 
treasure handing a lawyer thousands of dollars so that I can 
legally defend myself.
 As I posted previously,if you are on a plane,and terrorists 
hijack it,legally you can wound them,but not kill them.And I'm 
sure you're thinking the same thing I did when I read the 
law....Fuck that,I'll kill them!But you will have to beat a 
manslaughter charge afterwards.
 While they're passing all these Homeland Security laws,there 
ought to be a few changes made so that American citizens can 
legally protect themselves against terrorists.

From:
To:
Date: Tue Nov 26 01:09:04 2002

Message:
Some laws were made to be broken...              

From:
To:
Date: Tue Nov 26 01:21:42 2002

Message:
and some people are left to rot in jail cells....

From: Marie
To: Walter
Date: Tue Nov 26 01:52:18 2002

Message:
Well somehow I just have this feeling that if it 
was "Terrorists" trying to kill my family, WITH the 
new "Homeland Security" Laws, Dubya himself would pardon me!

From: Facts Finder
To: Marie
Subject: toilet
Date: Tue Nov 26 04:19:31 2002

Message:
No, there will not be anybody watching you while you pee. The 
plain cloth police will do random check, like when you come out 
of the toilet he or she will go in immediately and if it is not 
flush he or she will stop you and warn you for the first 
offence.

From: Facts Finder
To: jackie
Date: Tue Nov 26 04:24:59 2002

Message:
With all that is written, and if you really understand what it 
mean, do you still think what the radicals, extemists, 
terrorist muslims is doing is right?

Don't forget, read your quran again. Jesus will be the one to 
come and judge you not Mohammed. Jesus was sent by God through 
birth by Mary, Jesus perform miracle no other prophet in the 
Quran did. The only think Quran did not agree with the bible is 
that he did not die on the cross. He manage to escape and 
accended into Heaven. With all this written in the quran you 
can call Jesus Devil. Hmmmm?

From: Facts Finder
To: All
Date: Tue Nov 26 04:30:34 2002

Message:
The question that Mr Putin put to President was right. Is 
Pakistan and Saudi the so call "close" allies of US doing 
enough against the muslims terrorists.

Honestly I believe the Sept 11 have more to do with these 2 
than Saddam. What about Kuwait and the rest of the middle east 
muslims countries?

I mention before, maybe US should support Saddam during the 
gulf war instead. Saddam only want power that all.

I just hope the US and other countries stop selling weapon or 
machine to all muslims countries for the time being. Nobody is 
going to attack them anyway. As I say the weapon secretly goes 
to the terrorist network and in the end it is use against our 
own people.

Did you guys read about Saudi goverment might be indirectly 
involve in sponsoring the terrorist of Sept 11? What happen if 
it was found to be true with solid evidence. Will US goes to 
war with Saudi? What happen if one of the bomb were drop in 
Mecca because Osama and all wanted terrorist go there to hide? 
If I was to be Osama, that would be the safest place to hide.

And honestly, I don't think Osama is fully involved with Sept 
11. It was by some muslims group with big finance, maybe train 
in Aghan under Osama that all. He accept the responsibility, 
first to gain his popularity, second he has nothing to loose 
since he is already wanted by US and third, nobody will know 
who really is involved.

I thint the situation with muslims is getting from bad to 
worse. It must be stop soonest. Maybe Saddam is the best 
antidote. Make friend with him, let him invade Kuwait, Iran, 
Saudi and whatever. Then probably the muslims world will know 
who really care.

From: Comment
To: Fact Finder
Subject: Pusama bin laden
Date: Tue Nov 26 07:52:14 2002

Message:
You can't invade other countries with an army of cowards. 
pusama bin laden with his pusillanamous behavior couldn't 
invade anything that would require the courage of the male 
species.

From: Comment
To: all
Subject: End of Terrorism
Date: Tue Nov 26 08:10:32 2002

Message:
If you want to stop terrorism all you have to do is find a new 
supplier of oil. This would leave the oil countries without any 
money for the Mullahs, then they would have to worry about 
where their next meal is coming from instead of their next 
explosive. I would suggest buying oil from Russia and opening 
up the Alaskan Oil Fields. The tree huggers will have to look 
the other way for awhile.

From: Elton John
To:
Date: Tue Nov 26 08:25:39 2002

Message:
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From:
To:
Date: Tue Nov 26 08:28:38 2002

Message:
Elton John your a jerk

From:
To: Walter
Date: Tue Nov 26 08:21:05 2002

Message:
Shut the fuck up WALTER. Like YOU go to church LOL!! 
           Walters life
I was in the army so I get to be a loud mouth ass hole and it's 
my party so I can cry if I want to! Booo fucking hooo

From: Everyman
To: Facts Finder, NC Gal, Holy Roller, CC
Date: Tue Nov 26 08:05:24 2002

Message:
And well they should fine those  non flushers!  Wish they would 
here, too!

NC Gal; you could have  them bake some brownies for you...


Holy Roller:  Sounds like a not so thinly veiled threat.  The 
serpent, indeed.  

CC; ironic how many here were  saying the same  thing about 
Bush  pre  9/11.  

From: Get a grip
To: Walter
Subject: You are a Bigot and an ignorant one at that
Date: Tue Nov 26 08:54:52 2002

Message:
So it's OK for YOU to spout YOUR religion, but not me to talk of 
mine. You are a one-way BIGOT Walter. You have no clue what you 
are talking about. As usual. And you piss and moan and make 
threats like you could be big and bad and beat me up. What a 
fucking JERK! 
  Firstly; I will state this ONE MORE FUCKING TIME SO WALTER 
GETS IT REAL CLEAR; BIGOTRY is the by product of RELIGION, and 
BIGOTRY is what is to blame for WAR. Religion was NOT why the 
NAZI army wanted to wipe out the Jews, it was the Jewish BIGOTRY 
that made them the enemy, and yes it was blamed on religion. It 
is the BIGOTS of the Muslim faith that are causing the problem 
NOT THE WHOLE OF THE MUSLIM RELIGION. 
  So if you are going to bitch about me AT LEAST GET IT RIGHT!!
  
  Secondly; You know NOTHING of Druidry as it is today. Like 
Christians who committed SACRIFICE of the lamb and ABRAHAM who 
was told not to sacrifice his own son by God, NO Druids don't do 
that shit anymore EITHER. Nor are they involved in Witchcraft or 
any other dark art. What they are is the evolved combining of 
Christianity and the Old Welsh and Irish Traditions. Santa Claus 
and St Patrick are examples of this evolved tradition. 
  So again if you are going to be a bigot, at least get it right!
 
  

From:
To:
Date: Tue Nov 26 09:08:29 2002

Message:
From: Walter 
To: Missin/Smiley 
Subject: above post 
Date: Wed Dec 12 16:29:49 2001 
Message:
I don't mean to sound like I'm attacking,but I do get mad when 
Christian people act like they're better than the rest.

From:
To: Get a grip
Date: Tue Nov 26 09:24:01 2002

Message:
A Druish princess?  That's funny, she doesn't look Druish.

From: Get a grip
To: Walter
Subject: Religious profile?
Date: Tue Nov 26 10:03:45 2002

Message:
(We are unlikely to go into Muslim 
homes and slaughter women and children,but they wouldn't 
hesitate for a second to do that to us.)
 Walter walter WALTER! Listen to YOURSELF!

From: Get a grip
To:
Date: Tue Nov 26 10:08:36 2002

Message:
Hic' tatch riight, Hic' Druish ith a religon, Burrrrrp!  LOL!!

From: Captain Crunch
To: om/cf
Subject: Homeland Security
Date: Tue Nov 26 10:10:20 2002

Message:
Peeping Tom home land security LOL! 

From: Walter
To:
Date: Tue Nov 26 10:18:53 2002

Message:
Secondly; You know NOTHING of Druidry as it is 
today.____________ 

Nor do I give a fuck,Merlyn.Do you REALLY have such a problem 
with opposing viewpoints?You,an American?LOL!!

From: Walter
To: Merlyn
Date: Tue Nov 26 10:38:38 2002

Message:
Religion was NOT why the 
NAZI army wanted to wipe out the Jews, it was the Jewish BIGOTRY 
that made them the enemy, and yes it was blamed on religion.___

LMAO!!!! 
Aren't you GLAD that your tax dollars goes to buy weapons for 
Israel?Billions every year!No matter how many lies you tell 
about the Jews,you will support them,and you have no choice in 
the matter.

 

From: Walter
To: Holy Roller
Date: Tue Nov 26 10:54:51 2002

Message:
Do not let a group of Godless freaks tell you what you should 
believe.These same people who tell you not to believe in a 
God,or his Son,don't hesitate to fall to their knees in front of 
a rock,or a tree,or a"special"gerbil.
 These are the very same people who aren't intelligent enough to 
understand why Americans are hated around the globe,who have 
been so involved in their own interests,that they have never 
paid the least attention to the world around them.Until they've 
been attacked;then they blubber all the catch-phrases they've 
learned from TV from the rooftops.
 If these same people were hidden behind a curtain,you would not 
be able to tell the difference between them,and a group of 
terrorists,they both have the same ideology:kill every citizen 
in the nations THEY don't like.....and fuck all the innocent 
people.These same people will tell you in the same breath how 
much they value children.......
 But you will notice a major difference,if you listen to them 
long enough:most of them are unwilling to fight and die for ANY 
cause:their way of life,their country,or their family.They have 
never believed in anything,and will do anything to encourage you 
to lose your faith in God,and in yourself.

From: Merlyn
To: Walter
Date: Tue Nov 26 10:56:58 2002

Message:
Then don't get so damn pissy about other people expressing their 
opinions Walter, Israel as a whole is fine by most except the 
Muslims who are Bigots. Yes I am glad we support them. No I 
don't like what their Bigots do to arouse the Muslims and their 
Jihad, we all could do with out it. Neither is right in their 
Bigotry. And I don't tell lies about Jews, Rag on them yes. I 
don't think they are blameless for what they are getting into, 
nor were they blameless for what they have been into before. 
Tell me now that the Jews didn't take control of the banks and 
run the Germans ragged and treat them like shit. I know that 
part of history isn't taught in High School, just the part about 
them getting into a genocidal war with a stupid fuck head and 
his army of twisted morons (Hitler and his SS). It is also true 
here that the Palistinians are no better building a freakin' 
temple to allah right on the very sacrid ground of Christians, 
Jews and so on. They step their faith in everyones face, so do 
the Jews. You of all people should and have always stated this 
in your own way. We all are looking at the Jews and saying "here 
we go AGAIN!" Genocidal war against the Jews, AGAIN. There is a 
reason and it dates back to when the Quran was written, drive 
them into the sea. 
       And don't tell lies about other religions you don't know 
anything about. If I choose to express my views that is my right 
just as it is yours. And that is something YOU can't do anything 
about, our country SUPPORTS FREEDOM OF SPEACH. You slander the 
Muslim faith, all of them, as you did above. Want proof, just 
look. 

From: Merlyn
To: Walter
Date: Tue Nov 26 11:13:46 2002

Message:
I know many who are in the army who are not religious walter, 
You are a moron. I know a Navy SEAL who is a pagan. So your 
stupid ramarks don't do any good being cut and pasted. they are 
still false. 

From:
To:
Date: Tue Nov 26 11:16:05 2002

Message:
You are one of "them", not being very religious, walter. you are 
a hipocryte. 

From:
To:
Date: Tue Nov 26 11:16:57 2002

Message:
George Washington was not a christian and fought for our country

From:
To:
Subject: Walter the BIGOT
Date: Tue Nov 26 11:17:52 2002

Message:
Just because they do not believe in YOUR GOD does NOT make them 
          "Godless freaks" 

From: Walter
To: Merlyn
Date: Tue Nov 26 11:15:53 2002

Message:
Yes,and every time you slander the Christian faith,
I will slander Druidry.
Count on it.


 

From: Walter
To: Merlyn
Date: Tue Nov 26 11:26:46 2002

Message:
Just because they do not believe in YOUR GOD does NOT make them 
"Godless freaks" _______________________________________________

 Are you supporting the MUSLIMS now?

From: Walter
To: Merlyn
Date: Tue Nov 26 11:31:40 2002

Message:
Calm down Merlyn,its just a messege board.........LMAO!!

From: Merlyn
To: Walter
Date: Tue Nov 26 11:31:09 2002

Message:
When did I slander Christians, by showing their trinity? and 
wishing Jesus blessing to you? Explaining how the Christian 
tradition is built on western tradition and how the eastern 
religion was adopted by the west? And if I do not condemn all 
people of faith or muslims like you do, I then am told I support 
them? You just like to argue walter, and if you do you should at 
least know what you are talking about
   From: Walter 
To: om/cf 
Date: Mon Nov 25 23:56:30 2002 
Message:
I'm not exactly religious,but I wanted to show that even when 
you take religion out of the equation,things don't get any 
better.

So if you are not exactly religious, then you must be .......
(Do not let a group of Godless freaks tell you what you should 
believe) A godless freak LOL!
  And I do not slander Christianity by explaining it to you. Did 
you ever wonder why Christmas was on the winter SOLSTICE? Do you 
really think it was just some chance he Jesus's birthday is on 
the day every year? 
  I just know more about it than you do Walter, thats all. 
   If you are not "religious" then why do you care? And if you 
want ot slander something you should at least know aht you are 
talking about. 

From: Merlyn
To: Walter
Date: Tue Nov 26 11:42:26 2002

Message:
True it is just a message bord. So I will chill, but try to 
enjoy the coming "godless holiday" Thanks giving LOL!! 

From: Walter
To: Merlyn
Date: Tue Nov 26 11:51:43 2002

Message:
And I do not slander Christianity by explaining it to you. Did 
you ever wonder why Christmas was on the winter SOLSTICE? Do you 
really think it was just some chance he Jesus's birthday is on 
the day every year? ____________________________________________

You aren't explaining Christianity to me,you are giving your 
opinion.Until you can back your opinion with facts,that's all it 
will be:an opinion.
And no,I don't wonder why Jesus's birthday is celebrated on the 
25th.I have my own opinion as to why,and suffice it to say,it 
doesn't coinside with yours.

From:
To:
Date: Tue Nov 26 12:02:49 2002

Message:
and LMAO! to you too.......LOL!

From:
To:
Date: Tue Nov 26 12:05:24 2002

Message:
Than don't get all pissy about it, if it is just your opinion. 
Ok Ok you always want proof. I will see what I can find. 

From: Justice
To: all
Subject: Idiots
Date: Tue Nov 26 12:38:04 2002

Message:
Ok, these people are just plain fucking stupid and mindless 
idiots.
--------------------------------------------------------------
KADUNA, Nigeria (Reuters) - A Nigerian Muslim state said Tuesday 
it had issued a "fatwa" urging a death sentence for the author 
of a newspaper story on the Miss World pageant that sparked 
deadly riots in northern Nigeria. 

From: Merlyn
To: Walter
Subject: One of many interesting sites devoted to the understanding of Christian faith
Date: Tue Nov 26 13:20:19 2002

Message:
Perhapse the most known of these tales is the Holy Grail (Cup of 
Christ) 



The male dominated Zeus pantheon superseded the earlier Mother 
Goddess religions for the Classical world, it in its turn was 
superseded by and merged with Early Christianity to become 
Christianity as we know it. Pagan Celtic beliefs were of the 
Mother Goddess and were not merged with the classical pantheon 
until after the times of the Romans. [The Romans invaded Britain 
in 43 AD]. Christianity derived from a blending of Early 
Christian teachings and the existing religious beliefs of the 
people concerned. In the Mediterranean world this was the 
Classical Pantheon. Many words have been devoted to a study of 
how Constantine [314- ?] merged the worship of Sol Invictus with 
Christianity to establish Roman Christianity as the state 
religion of the Empire. Celtic Christianity derived from a 
blending of Early Christian teachings and pagan Celtic beliefs 
including that of the mother goddess. Many of the most strident 
differences between Celtic Christianity and European 
Christianity can be demonstrated to stem from these differing 
roots. These differences surely demonstrates that Christianity 
reached the Celtic regions directly, not through the filter of 
the Roman Empire, or indeed the Classical world, at a very early 
period.


I will set the link below

From: Merlyn
To: Walter
Date: Tue Nov 26 13:23:06 2002

Message:
http://www.lundyisleofavalon.co.uk/history/spreadofchristianity.h
tm

Any way, have a good day (LMAO) LOL!

From:
To:
Date: Tue Nov 26 13:24:49 2002

Message:
All of this explains a lot. To understand even more of the 
Islamic plight with the west and just how far back it really 
goes, I expect you could look up Jacobs Pillow. 

From: om/cf
To: Justice
Date: Tue Nov 26 12:41:35 2002

Message:
This just fries my ass...pisses me right off. I write nasty 
stuff about Islam and the prophet for a FREEKIN YEAR, and do I 
get one stinkin lousy fatwah issued on me? HELL NOOOOO! 
Completly dissed. Then this lucky SOB writes Muhummad himself 
might choose a wife from a pack of beautiful women. What the 
hell is THAT? Sounds more like a COMPLIMENT! DAMN I am 
disgruntled over this ;-)

From: Justice
To: om/cf
Date: Tue Nov 26 13:57:25 2002

Message:
I hearby decree a fatwa on om/cf.  Hehe.

From: Merlyn
To: Walter
Subject: Christian and Catholic faith
Date: Tue Nov 26 13:58:36 2002

Message:
Yet another topic of todays faiths is the catholic church, Roman 
pagan beleifs and how they merged with Christian religion and 
the difference form it and other Christian factions, unitarien, 
Lutheran, presbterian, Baptist and on & on. These are all 
results of how the eastern religion merged in various countries 
and cultures. Mostly they took on the similar holidays and 
insights to become a "western" version of the Chirstian faith. 
The Muslim religion is indeed a very simmular result of the 
merging of previous Pagan cults in Islam. It has yet to go 
through refromation.   
  Christianity is from an "eastern" religion. And has its roots 
in Eastern tradition. When the Muslim points to the west and 
states that Christianity is from the west, I have to laugh. It 
did manefest and go through refromation, in the west, but it is 
not western at all. I just don't feel it is of my heritage to be 
practicing an "eastern" religion. And I do resent the Muslim 
extremist view that Christianity is all the fault of the west. 
It is as you would say the farthest from the truth. It is also 
not true to say America is all Christian, when in fact it was 
founded by no one who was Christian. It was only later on the 
the bible belt formed. Also "in God We Trust" does not say whos 
God, it could be ANY God. Especially when you consider all the 
pagan symbols on the same dollar bill that states it. An 
egyptian pyramid for example with the single eye. 
  I can say that the presant view of the Muslim extremist is 
very narrow minded and historically incorrect. Most Muslims do 
not share this line of thought, they in fact have a better over 
all view, and respect other faiths. The extremist is out of line 
here and as you say if you remove religion from it you would not 
change much as the Bigotry is really what is the cause, Remove 
Bigotry and you might just change something. 

From: Get a grip
To: Fatwa
Subject: om/cf
Date: Tue Nov 26 14:20:59 2002

Message:
Ok let's make him repent to the great and pitiful Aalalalah then 
when he goes to the after world he will have 72 virgins to screw!
       

From: Justice
To: Get a Grip
Subject: om/cf
Date: Tue Nov 26 14:51:32 2002

Message:
Doesn't he have to declare a jihahahahahad first and declare all 
non-Muslims infidels?

From: Walter
To: Merlyn
Date: Tue Nov 26 15:11:42 2002

Message:
Also "in God We Trust" does not say whos God, it could be ANY 
God.____________________________________________________________

 So are you saying that it could be Allah? 

From: Get a grip
To: Justice
Date: Tue Nov 26 14:53:22 2002

Message:
I think that would make him have to take on a name like Jalala 
je bob muhammad abdul jebar akkabaadd.   

From: Merlyn
To: Walter
Date: Tue Nov 26 15:19:18 2002

Message:
In Alalalalalh we trust? LOL!! Perhapse Muslim Money should say 
in Gods we trust. As Allah is God of Gods. But I really don't 
think we can trust money like we trust God, but the Muslims say 
we worship our money because it says so right on it! LOL!!

From:
To:
Date: Tue Nov 26 15:22:46 2002

Message:
Alan Green Span is the money prophet

From: Walter
To: om/cf
Date: Tue Nov 26 15:21:03 2002

Message:
You could always send an e-mail to one of the Nation of Islam 
websites(There is one in Chicago),but I would strongly suggest 
against it.
     Alli-Akkbar-Boola-Boola

From: Get a grip
To: Justice
Subject: A turkey pardon
Date: Tue Nov 26 15:24:05 2002

Message:
They did it again! Let the national turkey go! Dick Chaeny will 
have to take over! A turkey in the broiler is worth two in the 
Bush! Or was it Bush... OK OK that's my Bush Bashing for the day.
  Now I ahve to issue a retraction or the KKK will start a fatwa 
on me LOL!! 

From:
To:
Date: Tue Nov 26 15:30:21 2002

Message:
Well shit, back to painting a sportster, racing orange. 
             Chao!

From: Kareem of Wheat
To: Cracker Mutherfuckers
Subject: WORD !!!
Date: Tue Nov 26 15:38:47 2002

Message:
Allah is GREAT !!!  Mohammad had more white pussy that you dick 
pulling whitey chillurun ever will.

Just for your honky comments about Allah....NO HOLIDAY DEALS ON 
THE CRACK I SELL TO YOU AND YOUR PARENTS!!!!!

Pussy bitches..........................

From: Walter
To: all
Subject: Goodbyes
Date: Tue Nov 26 15:54:04 2002

Message:
As many of you may have noticed,I do not enjoy living in 
America much anymore.I could go on and on about the 
hypocracy,etc.,but you heard it all before in my other posts.
 Anyway,to make a long story short,tomorrow morning,after my 
girlfriend leaves for her mothers for Thanksgiving,I am going 
out to the car in the garage,get in it and start it,without 
bothering to to open the garage door,and wait.
 For some of you,this will be a dream come true.
For the Others,I apologise,but I'm just too tired to stay.
Take care of yourselves.
                                Walter

From: Merlyn
To: Walter
Subject: Holiday Depression
Date: Tue Nov 26 16:21:34 2002

Message:
You are going to PUSSY OUT?!?! Man, at least do something 
dramatic like fly a plane into a building or something! 
  But Really Walter, don't do anything like that. I know you 
don't give a shit what I think, but I would not want you to do 
it. I take it seriously when people tell me this shit, too many 
have done it. Don't do it.
                  Merlyn 

From:
To:
Date: Tue Nov 26 16:37:36 2002

Message:
Yearn for a friend, our time in thought spent. 
As we see our life struggle along wondering where the time went.
In the days end we see through the glass, nature paint the sky.
Viewing the sunset while inhaling exhaust fumes, we think, why?
...
Open the front door, and find, the empty house.
We remember our lover, then wife, then spouse.
Children's eyes in wonder and fear, then pain, then gone.
In our mind we hear their laugh, then quiet, then a song.
...
The bills in the mailbox, turn on the lights & see,
Nothing, just nothing is all that waits for me. 
I couldn't say yes, or I couldn't say no, nothing mattered.
She just said she wanted more, and more, our love, battered.
...
Soon the call, the move out, and gone.
Forever a child, words of a song.
Their hopes of family forever torn away.
Sorry, I'm sorry, it's all I can say.
...
Just once, I thought, just once, could it have been?
Was it my fault, hers, or just a dream?
Were we taken away from each other.........
The news on the TV, another crime, another killing, another.. 

From: Justice
To: Get a Grip
Subject: Walter
Date: Tue Nov 26 17:33:58 2002

Message:
I think Walter is mad that we didn't declare a fatwa on him 
too.  I hereby decree a fatwa on Walter!

From: Get a grip
To: Justice
Subject: Fatwa
Date: Tue Nov 26 17:53:32 2002

Message:
His comments on using gasoline to commit suicide could qualify 
him for a fatwa agianst him from the ELF! And if he uses a SUV 
they might even use self etching acid on the windows. 
  But on the other side, I do take anyone who says this shit 
seriously, and implore walter to go get SHIT FACED tonight. 
That way he will be too hung over to handle the exhaust odor. 
  Drink of the day ; Sam Adams Boston Lager, on tap!
Walter can come over to my house and drink my whole keg! if it 
will keep him from committing suicide.

From: Justice
To: Get a Grip
Subject: Walter
Date: Tue Nov 26 18:14:39 2002

Message:
Maybe we just need to buy him another shirt?  If he does commit 
suicide can I have the beer that he would have consumed?

From: EagleEye
To: Walter
Subject: Supporting Isreal - like it or not LMFAO
Date: Tue Nov 26 18:17:49 2002

Message:
"LMAO!!!! 
Aren't you GLAD that your tax dollars goes to buy weapons for 
Israel?Billions every year!No matter how many lies you tell 
about the Jews,you will support them,and you have no choice in 
the matter."

-----------------------------------

As long as the weaponry is being used on the shit for brains 
palastinians and Arab Muslim extremist fuck-wads - I'll be 
LMFAO - yup you betcha.

From: EagleEye
To: Walter
Subject: On the way out ...
Date: Tue Nov 26 18:23:52 2002

Message:
Dude,  WTF is up with you lately man ..... this cant be the same 
Walter I used to know on this board????  Gotta be a bad imposter.

Easy man,  the pharmacy will soon be open and the Prozac 
available so you can refill the scrip.

Whatever you do, just dont go out in Yugo - OK?  Go steal some 
Arabs Benz - be sure to fill up the tank, use oil and resources -
 shit maybe even a BIG OL SUV - Excursion perhaps?

Tip of the Day - Take a muslim dirtball with you.  The more the 
merrier.

From: om/cf
To: Walter
Subject: What!!?!!
Date: Tue Nov 26 17:58:54 2002

Message:
I hope you're not serious, but that post was scarry. Though I 
only know you through this cyber cesspool, I can't picture you 
giving up. Whatever you are going through that brought you to 
this conclusion may seem overwhelming but hang in there...I've 
been through plenty of shit in life too and the thought of 
suicide has crossed my mind a time or two - you (and I) are FAR 
from alone in having the thought. HOLY SHIT!! It just hit me - 
maybe you're trying to see if people will say a prayer...I will. 
No smartass jokes from me - don't do it.

From: Facts Finder
To: Walter
Date: Tue Nov 26 18:47:47 2002

Message:
I just hope what you say is not you are going to do is not 
true. If you really think of doing it because of what is 
happening around, let it be, let the goodness in you shine on 
everyone, even if they give you back the same. I am sure you 
will find more peace than arguing.

You take care. Don't be foolish


From: U.K.Citizen
To: Walter
Date: Tue Nov 26 19:15:05 2002

Message:
I sincerely hope a sick prankster was responsible for this post..

From: Walter 
To: all 
Subject: Goodbyes 
Date: Tue Nov 26 15:54:04 2002 
Message:

--------

If not, I'm fairly concerned here. Please get back to the board 
as soon as you can, to confirm that wasn't you! Again if it is 
you Walter, we're here for you..just in case. 

From: Facts Finder
To: Walter
Date: Tue Nov 26 19:23:10 2002

Message:
Sorry, having a slight hangover from party last night.

I just hope what you say that you are going to do, is not 
true

 If you really think of doing it because of what is 
happening around you, let it be, let the goodness in you shine 
on everyone, even if they don't give you back the same. I am 
sure you will find more peace than arguing.


From: Merlyn
To: Walter
Date: Tue Nov 26 19:37:56 2002

Message:
Ok so I won the debate, for once, now lets not get all bent over 
it. Don't go sucking smog over the whole thing or the Muslim 
extremist gets another one. I thought you FOUGHT for your 
country! Die for it even but don't go GIVING the fuckers your 
life. Don't do it Walter.

From: jackie
To: Facts Finder
Subject: Terrorist Comes In All Forms
Date: Tue Nov 26 19:13:04 2002

Message:
Slavery The Inner Curse
By Jacqueline Amos



Terrorist is where we live, listen to the anger and hate that 
presents it self. Look at the hate of religion. Should one man 
be judged by his brother. The ignorance that man continues to 
voice. The disrespect for faith and God. These are troubling 
times and the bible speaks of it. Man who crowns his self as 
Allah our God, And speaks as a jack ass in one words. 
Murder is murder Know mans country, are children should be 
killed . This has been the down fall of all nations, those who 
think they are greater than God. The devils children with no 
respect are reguards for the creator who allow them to live upon 
this earth. Attacking faiths and those who minister in the name 
of peace.

We must keep in mind clean up our on house before we try to 
clean someone else. 
Slavery, Jealousy, Racism, Hatred dose that not signify this 
course of conversation.
Hatred against one another. Slavery a form of satins revenge. 
All those who hate God and defile the sanctuary of his name. Be 
not afraid of life, be afraid of death, and those who speak so 
freely disreguarding the sanctuary of our Allah God.


Slavery a word of genocide that plays with mans mind.
Slavery only in the mind of those who live in a cardboard
box with no air.
Slavery theirs no leaders needed to remove the garbage that
represents death.
Slavery opens your eyes you were already free.
Slavery opens the eyes only one can enslave self.
Slavery Capitalistic storage for easy labor by the sins of
man.

Slavery oppressor who lives through others to recede.
Slavery who is the mind who accepts tactics of the devil
revenge.
Slavery whom is better off dead to live in death.
Slavery life dose not begin at birth.
Slavery sipping on pain.
Playing the devils games. No one have power over you.
Only those who have been lost and can no longer see.
Slavery breaking the chains of your mind.
Slavery there will be no darkness, just walk in.

Brainwash  to keep you in chains.
Ignorance infected with pain.
Playing on the humble and weak.
Servants under the oppressor who never sleeps.
Watches you to keep you in place.
Slavery loyalty only to self. Satan is there to grab your
soul
Man the passive to self, do you know who is concealing your
life.
The passive believe in me and refuse to unite.
Terrorist againsT nations, Terrorist against God, Terrorist 
against man kind. Terriorist against religion. We all play apart 
in this destruction. Many who have died for no cause hatred of 
those who try to still the throne of our God. There will be only 
one winner in this War. The almighty God the sins shall fall 
upon the children destruction by the people of the land.
Terrorist against man kind.

From: om/cf
To: Justice
Date: Tue Nov 26 19:57:25 2002

Message:
I thank you for the honorary fatwa, but it would mean so much 
more coming from a real Islamokazi, LOL!!

From: CC
To: Walter
Subject: lmao
Date: Tue Nov 26 20:42:49 2002

Message:
A little tip for you.
Try smoking in the bathroom.
Empty enough water from the toilet so there is air getting into 
the pipe.
Acts as vaccum & pulls the smoke down.
lol
I laughed my ass off at ur comments.
 

From: Facts Finder
To: jackie
Date: Tue Nov 26 21:49:43 2002

Message:
I know terrorist come in many form, don't call retaliation as 
terrorists. Always ask who started it. What the world see now 
are innocent civilian from all walks of life being targeted by 
muslims  radicals just because they are not muslims. Why target 
these people in retailiation? If you retaliate, and choose the 
correct target, nobody will blame you. Who call for Jihad? Look 
at the world today, isn't the so called people of Allah doing 
all these. Are you telling me that this is work of your Allah 
or by his instruction, to clean the world because the world are 
not following what your religion teaches.

As you say clean up your own house before you can clean others. 
Start cleaning Saudi, then all those that do not follow the 
teaching. Make all the muslims women in the world wear burkha. 
Take away all entertainment, no sport and all the rules that 
the Taliban put on Aghan. If you can do that and the world see 
that it is good then you can come and put your teaching to us.

We are not talking about slavery and all those, we are talking 
about fact of life and our wisdom to search for our God. All we 
know is that God want us to love one another, love you enemy. 
That is a forgiving God and that is the God I choose.

Not a God that will promise you 70 virgins if you kill people 
in his name.

I notice your post is all copy and paste. Why don't you discuss 
this subject with me. Give me your opinion. Trust me, I am not 
one who condemn another religion. It is good that we see Islam 
from Muslim point of view

From: CC
To: om/cf
Date: Tue Nov 26 22:07:40 2002

Message:
Guy on CNN,s Crossfire called Canada an undemocratic country.
They were once again debating the whole moron calling issue.
Just a week ago 56 liberal MP,s voted against there own leader,
to keep ballots that elect committee chairs secret.
I would say that is pretty democratic if you ask me.

The program summed it up for me when i saw this pass at the 
bottom of the screen.

( CANADA/IT,S COLD/IT,S BIG/IS IT A THREAT?)

Needless to say that i changed the channel when i saw that. 
 

From: om/cf
To: CC
Subject: LOL! You get the munchies and watch too much tv!
Date: Tue Nov 26 22:24:12 2002

Message:
(CANADA/IT,S COLD/IT,S BIG/IS IT A THREAT?) What, no HELL YES! 
LOL!

There's only one way to find out. The U.S. invades Canada in the 
winter: a house to house evacuation out into the cold ensues.

Good Canucks: love the cold and immediatly start up snowball 
fights, ice hockey games and get the ski's from the garage, make 
a beer run and let the party begin.

Terrorist Islamic types (Bad Canucks): bitch & moan about the 
cold & curse their god Allah for making them come to the frozen 
tundra to hide.

OK then, now who called Bush an idiot today? Moron was 
yesterday, or was it the other way around...Las Vegas oddsmakers 
are saying 10:1 for "jerk" tommorow. I think it will be 
either "stupid" or the more controversial "asshole". ;-)

Take care and remember: don't drink bong water.



From: Walter
To:
Subject: The Rope
Date: Tue Nov 26 23:57:19 2002

Message:
ha ha you stupid fucks, ha ha. ha ha. who the fuck is looking in 
my window, what kind of fucking mask is that..ha ha

From: LeeRoy
To: Kareem of Wheat
Date: Wed Nov 27 01:01:37 2002

Message:
Shi', bro!  Where you be at?  I thoughts you still be in de 
joints fo' doin' yo' 12 year old cuzzin an' shi'.  Man, we's GOTS 
to go behind de 7-11 fo' to drink our malt liquor!  Dis here 
calls fo' a celebration an' shi'!  Now I sees yo' gots de muslim 
name!  What up with dat, maaaaaaaaaan?         
         

From:
To:
Date: Wed Nov 27 04:01:07 2002

Message:
Hi. I'm relly smarts and can spel rely wel. Your a fuken moronn 
and u shood go an kik you're own balls.

I reprasent the postors on this borde.

From: CC
To: om/cf
Date: Wed Nov 27 05:14:23 2002

Message:
Sometimes i write lol when i just crack a smile but i have to 
say i really did laugh out loud @ your last post.

Wow i saw a pic of that woman (Ducrois) today for the 1st time.
She does make Janet Reno look like a playboy bunny.

From: CC
To: All Americans
Subject: If I were you I would be pissed
Date: Wed Nov 27 05:58:54 2002

Message:
Did you know that your government gives 3 billion dollars in 
defense aid to Israel every year.
Israel is at the top of the ladder for receiving foreign aid 
from the states.

 

From: Get a grip
To: Jackie
Subject: Slavery
Date: Wed Nov 27 08:20:04 2002

Message:
Ya' got an issue with bondage? 

From: Habeeb ja Kabob
To: om/cf
Subject: fatwa
Date: Wed Nov 27 08:24:13 2002

Message:
Yes, it is of evil satin your words and I have councel of the 
great and pitiful Alalalalah and his wholy book and it is of 
grave concern that I have to inform you of my fatwa against you. 

From:
To:
Date: Wed Nov 27 08:30:28 2002

Message:
Walter.............Walter?             





























                      WALTER!!!

From: Get a grip
To:
Date: Wed Nov 27 08:31:16 2002

Message:
We still have your k-mart shirt, and now that K-mart is no 
longer carrying this Martha Stewart brand it is worth lots of 
money. 

From: Justice
To: all
Subject: Walter
Date: Wed Nov 27 09:29:03 2002

Message:
If I know Walter as much as someone can be known on this board I 
would say he is just going on Thanksgiving vacation and wanted 
to give us all a little holiday shock before he left.  Good ole' 
Walter.  Happy Thanksgiving everybody.

From: Get a grip
To: Justice
Subject: Walter shirt
Date: Wed Nov 27 09:47:24 2002

Message:
Ok, we can use it to soak up the Turkey gravy, and finish that 
Keg. He's just all mad that he tore another shirt when he lost 
the debate yesterday. He's not good at faking like he knows 
something he doesn't
  May we all be thankful for what ever little comfort we get. 
Life has a funny way of changing in a moment. SO LETS FUCKING 
PARTY! Then if we feel like shit we can blame it on the turkey 
and the empty keg!

From:
To: Walter
Date: Wed Nov 27 09:52:33 2002

Message:
And if you did suck smog, LMAO!

From: Walter
To:
Date: Wed Nov 27 10:07:10 2002

Message:
I'm backkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

From: Get a grip
To: Walter
Date: Wed Nov 27 10:14:40 2002

Message:
No No, Its (I'm Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack)
  And don't DO that shit! 

From: om/cf
To: Walter
Date: Wed Nov 27 10:31:32 2002

Message:
The Pinto wouldn't start?

From: Get a grip
To: om/cf
Date: Wed Nov 27 10:45:31 2002

Message:
I thought he drove a pacer

From: All
To: All
Subject: Latest news
Date: Wed Nov 27 10:58:39 2002

Message:
Latest out of Nigeria , government official calls for the death 
of the Miss World writer, these Muslims are absolutely nuts and 
I don't care what anyone says Islam is not a peaceful religion 
it's the religion of violence.

From: CC
To:
Subject: 3 BILLION
Date: Wed Nov 27 11:06:04 2002

Message:
Three billion is cheap you can't buy a better ally or army for 
three billion.

From: Get a grip
To:
Subject: Nigeria
Date: Wed Nov 27 11:46:59 2002

Message:
Got No Roach? 

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From: Everyman
To:
Subject: Will the REAL Walter please stand up...
Date: Wed Nov 27 12:37:00 2002

Message:
If that WAS you--it's not worth it.

From: Get a grip
To: CC
Subject: Cheap allies
Date: Wed Nov 27 13:52:57 2002

Message:
True, it is costing more to keep our rag head friends in Saudi 
Arabia, they have more expensive taste, shit, wasn't it 2 
billion just to buy off the Pakistan government? Seems like a 
better investment to give it to the Jews, they at least use the 
wepons and come to buy more! LOL!

From:
To:
Date: Wed Nov 27 14:02:45 2002

Message:
that wasn't the real walter the real walter is gone.

From:
To:
Date: Wed Nov 27 14:53:29 2002

Message:
How can you tell for sure?

From:
To:
Date: Wed Nov 27 15:52:33 2002

Message:
It could have been Walter two the sequil

From:
To:
Date: Wed Nov 27 15:53:10 2002

Message:
Or "the return of Walter"

From:
To:
Date: Wed Nov 27 15:53:34 2002

Message:
Or even "Walter in disney land"

From: Get a grip
To:
Date: Wed Nov 27 15:54:03 2002

Message:
Drink of the day .. Hot cider with rum

From:
To:
Subject: Yams to go with the Turkey
Date: Wed Nov 27 15:57:08 2002

Message:
http://www.vbloke.com/boobs.swf

From: Justice
To:
Subject: Yams to go with the Turkey
Date: Wed Nov 27 16:05:26 2002

Message:
Classic!  I love that link.

From: Get a grip
To: Justice
Date: Wed Nov 27 16:45:56 2002

Message:
I keep it around for size, I've been trying to dig up the devil 
does Wren & Stimpy one. 

From: pawel
To:
Date: Fri Jul 12 08:59:27 2002

Message:

From: pawel
To: nikola
Subject: milosc
Date: Wed Nov 27 16:53:43 2002

Message:
przez zoladek do serca

From:
To:
Date: Wed Nov 27 17:06:35 2002

Message:
Bessa me Colan

From: benloden
To: The president of the U.S.
Subject: come and find me and kill me
Date: Wed Nov 27 21:46:28 2002

Message:
I will kill The president and then Your Stuped Amercain people 
inclouding your Airforce and your army Fuck you president.

From: Gods Child
To: All
Subject: Peace My Muslims Brothers
Date: Wed Nov 27 22:03:29 2002

Message:
To Think As A Man


There is no barging with ignorance, words of hate that sings the 
almighty song. Blessing my Muslim Brother let not the beast rise 
you, Muslims of Black and all that represents the true meaning 
of Our God Allah. Let not the devil play the psycological 
lynchings of your mind. The devils who degrade the santuary of 
the cloak shall be the ones who walk through the back door.

Man without a cause is a man without a life. He feeds on the 
meek and the holy grounds of Gods order.

U-nder S-atin A-uthority the disgrace that smells of rotten 
death.
 Who leads who, Satins words intimidate by the words of God.
 Word Nigger flip to the other page.
 The sickness of a people who smell of defile death.
 Represent you heathens coming in some one else house,
 when your house smell like file death,
 and the minds of a garbage disposal  smelling of hate. 
What do you represent? It is not the United States the Land of 
the Free.
 You sound like dead animals the beast within hell.

The call of heavens the weary of the sons, brings great eternal 
forces,
 spirits of the almighty God, 
The almighty that was created within,
 the heart, the God of Heaven,
 Oh thou who represents the spirit shall reflect thy heart.
 In each and every soul delivered without tarnish are harm,
 innocence tarnished by the evil of dark.
The incubation of atomic life, in everything that resides upon 
the earth.



Faces that lives within the Soul, the weary of the Sons, 
let not thy live in darkness among the demon s that lives within.
 Thy honor that stands before thy conscious of dignity,
 thy spirit that embraces the words of thy almighty God. 
I the leader of self, I the spoken words of thy God. 
I the courage to say no when humanity is forced to travel among 
the dark.

 The evolution of man.  I am just a spoken tool , my father 
lives within my soul,
 I the life line which he chose. 
Meditation the solutions of great leaders,
 man walk with the armor of thy God. 
Life dose not center around man, life centers around God. 
Which mans time is borrowed, let not thy ego confuse who is thy 
almighty God.
 Heathens that preach the destruction of the world order of thy 
God.
 A heathen  who think they are greater than thy God. 


The turning of the door, the man, the husband, the son, the boy.
  The ego s shall not stand in the ways of Gods plan, To think 
like a man.
 Within a shell  releasing the glorification of man, 
Only the spoken words of God,.
Fore who that believes in the heavens,
  symbolic images of great men,
 the chosen of Gods flock,
 live not for the world live to reach the heavens,
 the paradise of great love,
 after satins is dead, who will you bow to, his story shall end.

 Satin the jealousy and hate he displayed for the creator, 
the love that God had given to be betrayed by the creations of 
his hands,
 Man repeats the same mistakes,
 To think as a man, fear not the world fear God.
Powerful images, great leaders, inspiring others,
 to raise one self, confidence in others, holy dwellings until 
eternity. 
The man the mind blinded by self.

Disgrace that he sets before thy almighty God,
 listen to the screams of the Universe, 
listen to the screams of the ancient dust,
 listen to the screams of the destructions of mans own right 
hands. 
The eyes that are blinded, the love that has no rising,
 the mighty and the power shall be no more,
 the light dose not shine upon his head. 
Deterring the responsibility of man,
 the leader, the nurturers of the land, 
the mouth peace of the almighty spoken words. 

Sanctuary of all Gods creations, 
the devils speak through the weapons of the tongue.
Man who blames God for the devil work.
It is not the power of man who stands before the mountain,
Its not power of a man who kills his brother.
It is not power of a man who defeats his wife.
Its not power of a man who abandon his son.

It s the power of a man who walks as a man,
Speak as a man, lead as a warrior,
In Gods love, sing not the song of victory, 
Sing not the songs honor of honor if thy slate is not clean.

From: om/cf
To: JackieAss
Subject: Shove your poetic propoganda UP UR ASS in Harlem
Date: Wed Nov 27 22:58:52 2002

Message:
Beauty Pageants Can Be Murder (An Ann Coulter Religion Of Peace 
Classic)
Worldnetdaily.com ^ | 11/27/02 | Ann Coulter

Inasmuch as liberals are demanding that Americans 
ritualistically proclaim, "Islam is a religion of peace," 
Muslims might do their part by not killing people all the time. 

Recently, the Religion of Peace suffered a PR setback when 
Muslims in Nigeria welcomed the Miss World beauty pageant by 
slaughtering Christians in the street and burning churches to 
the ground. At last count, more than 200 people were dead, 
hundreds more were injured and thousands were left without 
homes. Also, the Nigerian contestant's chances of winning "Miss 
Congeniality" were dashed. 

Leaping at the one chance they had to attract positive press to 
their country and perhaps begin the process of dragging 
themselves out of the 13th century, Nigerian Muslims instead 
chose to hack innocent people to death with machetes in the name 
of Allah. Pageant officials pulled up stakes and took the show 
to London. At least the Christian-carving faithful can sleep at 
night knowing they've secured a place for themselves in heaven 
alongside Mohamed Atta. 

One can assume the director of the Nigerian Department of 
Tourism isn't too pleased. Winning the pageant site had been an 
uphill battle from the beginning. Some of the more closed-minded 
Miss World participants had already begun carping about the 
upcoming stoning of a Nigerian woman, in accordance with Islamic 
sharia law. 

The president of Nigeria, Olusegun Obasanjo, tried to downplay 
the Muslims' murderous rampage by cheerfully explaining: "The 
beauty queens should not feel that they are the cause of the 
violence. It could happen at any time irresponsible journalism 
is committed against Islam." Well, that's a relief. 

It seems an article in a Nigerian newspaper had mused that the 
Prophet Muhammad "would probably have chosen a wife" from among 
the Miss World contestants. This upset the practitioners of the 
Religion of Peace, whose polygamous prophet preferred his wives 
a little younger   one was 6 years old. 

They expressed their displeasure with the article by 
bludgeoning, stabbing and burning Christians to death. In one 
part of Nigeria, enforcers of the Religion of Peace commanded 
that Muslims kill Isioma Daniel, the authoress of the blasphemy. 
(Overheard at Miss World contest: "Does this make me look 
fatwa?") 

The New York Times can't bear to think that their little 
darlings   angry, violent Muslims   could be at fault in this 
melee. That makes no sense because Islam is a Religion of Peace. 
So the Times reviewed the facts, processed it through the PC 
prism, and spat out the headline: "Religious Violence in Nigeria 
Drives Out Miss World Event." According to the Times, rampaging 
Muslims pouring out of mosques to kill Christians and torch 
churches resulted from "the tinderbox of religious passions in 
the country." 

Islam is peaceful, but religion causes violence. Pay no 
attention to the fact that the most bloodthirsty cult in the 
20th century was an atheistic sect known as communism. But that 
was not "true communism," just as Muslim terrorists are not 
practicing "true Islam." The ironic thing is, liberals would 
hate Muslims who practiced only "true Islam." Without the 
terrorism, Muslims would just be another group of "anti-choice" 
fanatics. 

But these are the good Muslims   the Mumia Muslims, not the 
Jerry Falwell Muslims. The police step in to try to quell 
violent Muslims and the Times reports this as "fighting between 
Christians and Muslims." Ah, the cycle of violence. 

It would be as if a conservative newspaper, with no basis in 
fact, referred to all murderers as "environmentalists." 
Environmentalists Fly Planes Into World Trade Center; 
Environmentalists Rape Woman In Central Park. 

Winning "Best in Show" was the Times' headline on an article 
about the Christian missionary shot dead in Lebanon by a 
Muslim: "Killing Underscores Enmity of Evangelists and Muslims." 
This is like referring to the enmity between a woman and her 
rapist. She hates him, he hates her. It's a cycle of violence! 
Except the funny thing about the Christians is, they still love 
the Muslims. 

The Muslims' main beef with the Christians was that 
they "destroy the fighting spirit of the children, especially of 
the Palestinian youth, by teaching them not to fight the Jews, 
for the Palestinians to forgive the Jews and leave them 
Jerusalem." No new data are capable of shaking the Times' faith 
that Islam is a religion of peace and Christians, as a general 
matter, deserve to be shot. 

The Times seemed to agree the Muslims had a point with the 
evangelical. In a news analysis, the Times said the missionaries 
claimed they were merely exposing people to Jesus Christ. "But," 
the Times charged in a "j'accuse" tone, "a somewhat more direct 
goal emerges amid the Web site postings." They were asking for 
it. (On the bright side, at least this means the Times is 
holding the gun innocent in this one instance.) The Christians 
were caught red-handed committing irresponsible Web postings 
against Islam. 

Fortunately, Christians do not rip out people's entrails in 
response to irresponsible journalism committed against 
Christianity.
**************

Relax!!! Islam is a religion of P - I - E - C - E - S !!!
e.g., chopped off heads, hands, feet, fingers, toes, ears, 
noses, tongues, vaginas, wienies, etc., etc., etc.

From: Marie
To: Facts Finder
Subject: Re: Potty Police
Date: Wed Nov 27 23:03:33 2002

Message:
Well that's a comfort to know they dont go in and watch you pee! 
lol...But your not serious they actually have someone stand 
outside the door and go check the potty after your done? Well 
I'm glad I alway's flush! Lmao!

From: jackie
To: Get A Grip
Subject: Slavery
Date: Wed Nov 27 22:22:23 2002

Message:
The masters of science shall not be hidden within the dark. 
History of the future repeats it self, Perfection shall return 
after the beast of the earth expires. 2500 years the hands shall 
change. Satin shall not have the last word. 
  the tribes shall return. Remember when there was no moon. 
Remember again when earth has gone. Study the word of thy God. 
Live the life of his commands. God is love and peace.
All of those who come within the boundaries  of hate dose not 
represent the highest God. One almighty. Let not your book be 
thou weapon, let thy heart be thy tool of love within Gods 
creations. Let not thy tongue be the sword.
We all will answer to one God. Thy father says beware of those 
who come in my name.     Live by the words of thy God.


PSALM 96


O sing unto the lord a new song: sing unto the lord, all the 
earth. Sing unto the lord, bless his name: show forth his 
salvation from day to day.
Declare his glory among the heathen, his wonders among all 
people. For the Lord is great, and greatly to be praised: he is 
to be feared above all Gods. For all the gods of the nations are 
idols.
But the lord made the heavens.  Honor and majesty are before him 
strength and beauty are in his sanctuary. Give unto the lord: Oh 
kindred s of the people, give unto the Lord glory and strength.  
Give unto the lord the glory due unto his name: bring  an 
offering, and come into his courts.  Oh worship the lord in the 
beauty of holiness: fear before him, all the earth.

Say among the heathen that the Lord reigneth; the world also 
shall be established that it shall be moved. He shall judge the 
people righteously.
Let the heavens rejoice, and let the earth rejoice. Let the sea 
roar, and the fullness thereof. Let the field be joyful and all 
that is herein: then shall judge the world with righteousness, 
and the people with his truth.





Psalm 82

God standeth in the congregation of the might; He judgeth  among 
the gods. How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the 
persons of the wicked? Se/lah. Defend the poor and fatherless: 
do justice to the afflicted and needy: rid them out of the hand 
of the wicked. They know not, neither will they understand; they 
walk on in darkness all the foundations of the earth are out of 
course. I have said, ye are gods; AND ALL OF YOUR ARE CHILDREN 
OF THE MOST HIGH. But ye shall die like men, and fall like one 
of the princes. Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shall 
inherit all nations. 


A Slave comes in many forms, when the mind is locked within its 
own chains of thought, it becomes a zombie within its self.

From: Everyman
To: All the old 'regulars' and some of the new (not the ones posting trash)
Subject: Dinner
Date: Wed Nov 27 23:22:34 2002

Message:
The turkey will go in the oven early; if you want giblet gravy 
or sausage in the stuffing, you'll have to bring your own.  

Walter, you better be there.

From: Facts Finder
To: Marie
Date: Wed Nov 27 23:27:29 2002

Message:
No they don't have people standing outside. As I say the person 
may just be another person using the toilet. The police are in 
plain cloth. So you do not know who are they.

From: Jackie
To: Get A Grip
Subject: Please Read The Writing
Date: Wed Nov 27 23:19:39 2002

Message:
Murder is Murder, let me repeat my self, no man who kills his 
brother represents the father. This is not my words this is the 
words from the bible, the bible says thy shall not kill. No man 
falls without sin under his commandments. This goes on in our 
country every day. Lets not forget the burning of the cross, 
lets not forget the murdering of men. Lets not forget the 
burning of churches. And when you go to the next page, the word 
niggers and muslims being single out all over the world. I 
cannot speak for another country, but we live the same hatred 
every day. Read this board. All men that are muslims are not bad 
people. Why do you hang them to the cross.  All white men did 
not lynch black people, they were there to help stop the 
ignorance of men who were terrorist, who rode in the night and 
killed children and burned houses, and continue to kill men 
because the color of there skin. No it is not right for the 
bombing, no its not right for the bombing in there country and 
the killing of there children and family. Life is life this is a 
plea to humanity stop the war.

From: Facts Finder
To: Marie
Subject: Toilet
Date: Wed Nov 27 23:30:21 2002

Message:
Sorry, story not complete yet


So the toilet user wouldn't know. After some fine, people start 
flushing in case the one next to you are the police people. So 
it do help, now it become a habit. 10 years ago some toilet in 
public place stinks and dirty. Nowadays it is nice, clean and 
usable. The owner of the toilet can also be fine if they did 
not maintain the toilet for use. There is also competition for 
the nicest and cleanest toilet every year. So now you can some 
toilet are also decorated with plant. Of course the owner will 
charge 10 cents to use the toilet. Some are free.

From: Jackie
To: om/cf
Subject: White Trash
Date: Wed Nov 27 23:31:49 2002

Message:
See you are one of those cowards that hides behind the white 
mask. You don't intimate me , you are one of the poor white 
trash that lives in the trailor. The coward that hides behind 
the clown mask. Devil you are the worst peace of shit to man 
kind. Did I get it right.

From: Marie
To: Jackie & Gods child
Date: Wed Nov 27 23:13:22 2002

Message:
If I want to read verses from the Kuran I will buy the book! Or 
look it up on the internet! Twisted Minds!!!

From: Marie
To: ALL MY AMERICAN BROTHERS AND SISTERS
Date: Wed Nov 27 23:39:24 2002

Message:
HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!!!

From: Marie
To: Jackie
Date: Wed Nov 27 23:41:21 2002

Message:
Remember what you said: "If you want to clean up anybody elses 
house you better start with your own" THAT APPLIES TO YOU TOO! 
Kuran reading and believing BITCH!!!!

From: Marie
To: Facts Finder
Date: Wed Nov 27 23:44:21 2002

Message:
I have seen places here to that charge to use the Potty! I think 
it's INSANE!! If you flush and keep it clean, I dont think you 
ought to have to pay! But it sounds nice to have "The cleanest 
Potty Contest" Lmao!

From: om/cf
To: Sister Jackie
Date: Wed Nov 27 23:43:06 2002

Message:
Not even close. How can anyone intimidate another on a cyber 
message board? A wood framed house does not a trailor make. I 
wear NO masks, what you see is what you get. Devil? You have no 
idea! And, you forgot a lovely parable.

Let not thou brain be washed downstream, in a flooded river of 
bullshit! 

From: Facts Finder
To: jackie
Date: Wed Nov 27 23:36:52 2002

Message:
Murder is murder, I totally agreed with that. So if don't stop 
these muderder by bringing them to justice and punish them by 
death. More of these murderer will arise, knowing that they 
would not be sentence to death. Think of those victims that die 
in their hand. Think of those in Sept, think of those in Bali, 
think of those in Russia, Think of those in Kashmir. Think of 
those in Phillipines, Indonesia, Isreal and all that die in the 
hand of these radicals. I would also like to include those 
innocents in Iraq, Afghan, Palestine, Chenya and Indonesia that 
have to suffer because of retaliation and method use to capture 
those responsible who started it.

Also think of the many that suffer the after effect of losing 
love ones, losing job and losing phisically to these terror.

These people have to be stop in order to have peace.

And please don't try to create your propaganda in trying tho 
win the black, against their own Ameican people.

From: Marie
To: Jackie
Date: Wed Nov 27 23:57:18 2002

Message:
If we were NOT attacked ther wouldnt be a WAR! They made their 
bed and now they will lay 6 feet under in it! We didnt ask for 
it, it was brought to us! Now the perpetrators of these evil 
acts will PAY! And if that means paying with their lives OH 
WELL! The BIBLE also says "An eye for an eye"...There will be 
hell to pay for attacking AMERICA!!!! They wanted it they got 
it! And they will get it MORE and MORE in SPADES!!!!

From: Everyman
To: Jackie
Subject: Reading Assignment
Date: Thu Nov 28 00:03:49 2002

Message:
I think you need to go back and re-read that post from om/cf.  
Apparently you missed the gist of the article.
D-
You now have a chance to bring your grade up.

By the way, SATIN is a material.
SATAN is the correct spelling; unless you mean satin pajamas can 
speak...

From: om/cf
To: Everyman
Subject: Thanksgiving dinner
Date: Thu Nov 28 00:08:42 2002

Message:
Good idea - keeping the stuffing plain, let each add their own 
to taste. Gibblet gravy on the way for the mashed patatoes and 
the stuffing. I didn't make it to the northwoods this fall so 
the canned jelly cranberry sauce will have to do. In not sure 
what is in mince-meat pie, other than dates, but hopefully 
someone can bring one - haven't tasted one since a child. 
;-)

From: Everyman
To: om/cf
Subject: Pie
Date: Thu Nov 28 00:30:56 2002

Message:
My son's on his way home from art school & is a 'natural' when 
it comes to baking pies.  Gets the crust 'almost' like 
Grandma's.  I'll have him add mince to the list.  That is, of 
course, unless U.K. Citizen would like to do the honors, seeing 
as how it's a traditional British dish.

From: om/cf
To: Everyman
Date: Thu Nov 28 00:30:28 2002

Message:
Walter had better show up tomorrow.
If I see his name here....

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=527

...I will personaly go to the visitation and slap the corpse 
upside the head!

From: Everyman
To: om/cf
Date: Thu Nov 28 00:45:07 2002

Message:
I'll join you!

You hear that, Walter?

From:
To:
Date: Thu Nov 28 00:51:56 2002

Message:
English Mince Meat
5 lbs. raisins, seeded

5 lbs. currants
5 lbs. suet
finely chopped
5 lbs. light brown sugar
5 lbs. apples
1/2 teaspoon mace
4 lbs. citron
1/2 teaspoon cinnamon
11/2 lbs. blanched almonds
21/2 cups brandy

Cook raisins, suet, apples, citron, currants, and sugar slowly 
for one and one-half hours; then add almonds, spices, and brandy.
 
 

 

From: om/cf
To:
Subject: Mince Meat
Date: Thu Nov 28 01:14:55 2002

Message:
Brandy? Well this recipe certainly explains a lot. No wonder at 
Thanksgiving at the Swedish grandparents house everyone got such 
a laugh at the only kid in the bunch that chose homemade mince 
meat pie over pumpkin w/whipped cream....the kid with a half 
Indian father! LOL!!!

From: U.K.Citizen
To: Everyman, EagleEye,
Date: Thu Nov 28 01:01:10 2002

Message:
Everyman: I'll have you know I pride myself on correct spelling 
and pronunciation, as demonstration by this carol. A little out 
of season I grant you;

God rest ye merry gentlemen,
let nothing you dismay,
remember Christ our saviour,
was born on Christmas Day,
to save our souls from Satan's power,
when we have gone ashtray...


EagleEye: And just where have you been? Yeah YOU!!! As 
everybody's on the subject of food, I think it's only fair that 
in repsonse to your McDonalds, B.K. and Wendy's over here, we 
should retaliate with fish n' chips and steak n' kidney pie fast 
food joints. That's not a promise, that's a THREAT, pal!! If 
this doesn't get a response from you, nothing will. (He's SO 
aloof.)

Everyman & Om/cf: My gran made 'the best' apple pie. However, my 
own culinary efforts or lack of them, leave much to be desired 
so I really can't help you gentlemen out on that score. But, I 
can wish you both and rest of the yanks on this board a peaceful 
Thanksgiving holiday.

Justice: Thanks for trying to raise spirits around here. I just 
wish I had your confidence regarding Walter's last post. It's 
either American homour that's completely gone past me, or it's 
something that's completely out of character. Believe me, I'll 
be happy to be proved wrong.

Hello also to Facts Finder, Marie, CC and Merlyn et al.  

From: Marie
To: All
Subject: Feeling Sentimental
Date: Thu Nov 28 01:55:32 2002

Message:
Happy Thanksgiving! And to the Victims families of 9-11-01 My 
thoughts and prayers are with you! You probably dont know it but 
people you have never met, are probably never going to meet, but 
who deeply care, have you in our prayers EVERY DAY!  Not just 
during the Holiday's, but it seems that the Holiday season is a 
time when we search deep in our hearts and extend a hand to you!
God be with you in this Holiday Season! And YOU ARE NEVER 
ALONE!!! We are with you, even though you havent, and probably 
wont ever meet us! 


And to ALL OUR MILITARY, our thoughts and prayers are with you, 
for what you are doing is more than you will ever know, or 
perhaps maybe you do. You keeping us safe, and putting an end to 
Terrorism is probably more than you ever knew you were going to 
get involved in, but you have kept us safe in the past and 
present, and won the battles before, and I KNOW YOU WILL AGAIN. 
God Be with YOU!!!! Happy Thankgiving! Wherever you are!!!

And WALTER  Get "Ya Ass" Back On this Board!!
Thank You UK... :-)

From: U.K.Citizen
To: Marie
Date: Thu Nov 28 02:06:56 2002

Message:
Can I just say, I actually DON'T pride myself on my spelling or 
pronunciation or grammer or syntax as it happens, having just re-
read my own post, LOL!! Anyway Marie, you're welcome. Do enjoy 
your holiday.:)

From: U.K.Citizen
To: North Carolina Cal
Subject: Tut..tut..almost forgot, hi to you too NC Gal!
Date: Thu Nov 28 02:17:47 2002

Message:

From: Everyman
To: U.K. Citizen
Date: Thu Nov 28 05:51:48 2002

Message:
A bit too much of that brandy, eh?  Guess it made mince meat out 
of you...
Well, at any rate, you're still invited for dinner, whether you 
bring pie or not.  You, too, CC if you care to come south of the 
border.

As for Walter, that post seemed somewhat 'out of character' and 
I question whether or not it was really him.  Hope not.  Walter, 
if it WAS you, that's the lowest thing you could do, not to 
mention cowardly.  You WON'T find 72 virgins on the other side, 
but you probably WILL run into all of those 'Jihad Joes'; and 
you REALLY wouldn't want to keep company with THEM for all 
eternity, would you?

Better see you at dinner!

From: All
To: All
Subject: Muslim killers
Date: Thu Nov 28 09:10:15 2002

Message:
Have a Happy Thanksgiving and be thankful most of you don't live
in a Muslim country. Long live Israel and death to the killer
Muslim terrorist who killed the 11 in Kenya today.

From: Coff!
To: om/cf
Subject: Bollok Porridge
Date: Thu Nov 28 09:34:11 2002

Message:
you haven't tasted daddies spunk since you were a child either, 
does that mean you want some?

From:
To:
Date: Thu Nov 28 09:20:41 2002

Message:
IF your a U.S citizen and want to do something about terrorism,
write to your congressman and let him know you don't support a
Palestinian state. At least until all killing has stopped for a year.

From:
To:
Date: Thu Nov 28 09:39:00 2002

Message:
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From:
To:
Date: Thu Nov 28 09:59:33 2002

Message:
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From: Facts Finder
To: UK Citizen
Date: Thu Nov 28 11:21:21 2002

Message:
Yep, we are still around.. nice to hear from you.

From: Merlyn
To: om/cf,Justice,CC,Walter(where ever he is) Marie, Everyman, U.K.Citizen, U know who, Eagle Eye, NorthCarolina Gal andAll..........
Subject: Even Jackie
Date: Thu Nov 28 11:17:47 2002

Message:
Happy thanks giving, and a giving of thanks to you all. 
     In this day of great uncertain and unyielding pain for 
those who live in Palestine and Israel, I extend this wish......
    Dear brothers and sisters of mankind, rest your anger and 
extinguish your hate. Cast out the symbol of death and embrace 
your Gods deepest wish. Be not afraid of the anguish and 
uncertainty that is life, rather. embrace it. 
    It is for all of us to know one day what lies at the end of 
our spiral of life. It is not our wanting or understanding that 
can change this. We cannot harvest another s soul for a human 
desire, for it to be of our Gods will. For no God has ever come 
to wish this of us, only the misguided writings of men speak of 
this satanic desire. To kill another in the name of a God is 
sacrifice, and it is against Gods will to sacrifice. Our life is 
our sacrifice and no other will ever be accepted by God. Only 
Satan would ask that we kill in his name. 
    This is the message of Jesus Christ, the soul messenger of 
God. No other is of his holy hand and no other is the savior. It 
was on that day of Gods holy creation , Christmas; that Christ 
came to us all. And we all owe the debt of thanks for this most 
profound gift, this our Jesus, our Son of God.
    Our task in life is clear, and our will is that of life. Let 
it be so. Let life, each and every life, be precious. Let there 
be no war with Iraq. May we all recognize our brothers and 
sisters as who we really are; children of our maker and precious 
to him and may we respect his creation, the earth as our mother 
spirit, the womb of Christ and all of his fathers creation. 
                      Awen
                       /|\

From: Merlyn
To: Facts Finder
Subject: Happy Thanks giving
Date: Thu Nov 28 11:50:36 2002

Message:
And for you Facts Finder, A very special Thanks Giving. For it 
is in your heart, and this is a gift that you know very well.
         Blessings to you on this day,
                May it be one of many to come.
                        Merlyn 

From:
To:
Date: Thu Nov 28 11:53:02 2002

Message:
Now lets fucking PARTY!!!!!!!!!!!

From: om/cf
To: Facts Finder
Subject: Jackie
Date: Thu Nov 28 11:47:24 2002

Message:
A simple GOOGLE search of 'Jacqueline Amos', turns up a ton of 
sites. It seems Jackie is a very talented artist, poet and 
songwriter - now whether or not this is the person posting the 
peotry, or just a fan, remains to be seen.

jackie2goody@yahoo.com (e-mail)

http://www.literatenubian.com/DisplayPoem.asp?Id=687

http://www.absolutearts.com/portfolios/j/jackieamos/

http://www.womenswebdaily.com/amos.html




From: Merlyn
To: all
Subject: It is with sad heart that I tell you that the war will be in the holy land of God, until such time men rise above this unjust hate. It will not be in Iraq. The Pagan faction of the Muslim Faith is at war with the Jew. As long as the Christian aids the Jew We as Americans will be in this war. Usama Bin Laden is of Satan, he speaks Satans words and does Satans will. Usama Bin Laden is incarnate of Evil and is NOT of the true Muslim faith. It is the Saudi and the Egyptian that leads this unjust war and brings death to the Holy Land. Jesus weeps for the lost soul this day. May the true Leaders of the world come to pass judgement and bring Justice to Usama Bin Laden and Yasser Arafat. May they be bound by their greed and be cast to their hell unable to harm any more who wish to walk the walk of peace.
Date: Thu Nov 28 12:44:14 2002

Message:
Palestinian gunmen on Thursday opened fire at a Likud Party 
office crowded with voters and at passengers in a nearby bus 
terminal in the northern Israeli town of Beit Shean, not far 
from the Jordanian border.

  
 
 
 
At least five Israelis and two attackers were killed. Dozens 
were wounded. 

A militant group linked to Palestinian President Yasser Arafat's 
Fatah faction claimed responsibility for the attack. The al-Aqsa 
Martyrs Brigades said its gunmen carried out the raid to avenge 
the killings on Tuesday of two militant commanders in the Jenin 
refugee camp in the West Bank.

Thursday's attacks came on the day of an election contest 
between Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and Foreign Minister 
Benjamin Netanyahu.

The gun battle erupted on the street, with police and armed 
bystanders firing at the attackers. Two gunmen were killed and a 
third was holed up in a house opposite the Likud branch, 
occasionally firing at the office. Security forces surrounded 
the house. One of the gunmen reportedly fled to a nearby bus 
station.

One of the attackers carried an explosives belt that did not go 
detonate.

"There are dead here," witness Yitzhak Avraham said, adding that 
grenades were thrown by the assailants.

Police also found a stolen car near the bus station and were 
checking it for explosives, radio reports said.

A woman who saw the 3 p.m. attack from her home near the Likud 
office described seeing one gunman in a military-style jacket 
firing on people as they fled.

"I simply saw the terrorist standing, smiling, laughing and 
shooting in all directions," Galit Cohen told Israel Army 
Radio. "He simply shot and shot and shot and he didn't stop. 
People were fleeing and falling."

"They fired hundreds of bullets," Beit Shean Mayor Pini Caballo 
told Israel Radio. "They went to the Likud branch and saw the 
crowds and fired in all directions and hit many people."

Rafi Ben-Shetreet, the Likud leader in Beit Shean, said he and 
others standing at the entrance to the party office heard what 
sounded like two grenade blasts followed by bursts of shooting. 
One of the attackers was killed by a security guard, he said.

A Palestinian Cabinet minister, Ghassan Khatib, said Israel's 
occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip "is responsible for 
the continuation of the violence" and both sides should avoid 
harming civilians.

David Baker, an official in Sharon's office, said, "Israel is 
fighting a day-to-day battle against those who reject our very 
existence and want us out of Israel once and for all."

One presumption is that the simultaneous attacks in Africa at a 
Kenya hotel and an Israeli aircraft were supposed to coincide 
with Thursday's elections as a way for Usama bin Laden, Al Qaeda 
and Islamic extremists to send a message of support to the 
Palestinians.

Experts are wondering what, if any, the attacks will have on the 
elections. Sharon was ahead by about 20 points.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

From:
To:
Date: Thu Nov 28 13:07:22 2002

Message:
THE PALESTINIANS WILL NEVER HAVE THEIR OWN STATE ALLAH HAS 
WILLED IT.

From:
To:
Date: Thu Nov 28 13:11:29 2002

Message:
lONG LIVE ISRAEL AND GOD BLESS THE ISRAELI ARMY

From:
To:
Date: Thu Nov 28 15:48:19 2002

Message:
I practice the holy month of Rama-lama-ding-dong.

As I walk through the valley of the shadow of death I will fear 
no faggots from Bingville.

From: Everyman
To: om/cf,Merlyn, Walter, NC Gal, Justice, Eagle Eye, Justice USA, Facts Finder, U.K.Citizen, Marie, Jackie, Noah, Spy, Attbi2d,CC,.44,et all
Subject: Happy Thanksgiving
Date: Thu Nov 28 17:33:00 2002

Message:
Pies are done, turkey's out of the oven; 
everyone at the gathering brought something to contribute.  We 
are all different, yet we share a common bond and come together 
respecting the those differences; in diversity there is unity.  

From: Everyman
To:
Date: Thu Nov 28 17:43:06 2002

Message:
Now, who's got the brandy?

From: U.K.Citizen
To: Everyman, Open mind/Closed fist, Merlyn, Facts Finder
Date: Thu Nov 28 20:20:54 2002

Message:
Unity?, maybe there's a unity of sorts....perhaps! However, what 
struck me was an quote from the actor John Malkovich interviewed 
a month or so after 9-11. Let me just say, this was the guy who 
was also quoted in an address to the Oxford Union (University) 
as saying that he wanted to "kill" George Galloway Labour MP ( 
Saddam 'sympathiser'). I'm not sure if this rings true or not, 
but he was asked at the time, "Do you think anything will change 
in America (one presumes for the better) as a result of the 
attacks? He replied with a resigned and unequivical "No". I'm 
not sure what led him to that conclusion, I'm not well placed to 
comment. However, just after the attacks in New York especially, 
you may recall many volunteers on the spur of the moment it 
seems were prepared to travel a thousand miles or more if needs 
be to help clear the rubble at Ground Zero (NY), but were told 
in so many words to "get lost" when they got there. In that 
instant I kind of got what he meant.

When something as terrible as 9-11 happens, it's either an 
opportunity to "start over" in some way, or it's the begining of 
the end to some, or, it doesn't really make one iota of 
difference to others. I get the feeling not just in the U.S. but 
just about everywhere that the malaise that existed before 9-11 
has returned once again. I maybe wrong, but one gets the feeling 
that if there was ANY opportunity for "unity", whatever one 
defines that as being, it's already been missed.

Om/cf: If it's not one reason bringing me back to this board, 
it's another! Anyway whilst I'm here, thought I'd just take the 
opportunity to say, that as far as the likelyhood of an al-Qaeda 
attack on Britain is concerned, in the light of our PM's rather 
ambiguous announcement the other week, that I do recall saying 
that an attack was not imminent. (In the light of the arrests 
made the other week, I'll keep an open mind on that.) Whether an 
attack is successful or not, is down to the preventative 
capabilities of our security services in the end. Whether an 
attack occurs in the next few months or not, I stand by my 
statement, that tactically speaking at least, attacking numerous 
western nations simultaneously would be self-defeating. 
Governments, along with public opinion, either side of the 
Atlantic for instance, would have cause to work together more 
closely, and become more unified at least by default, whereas in 
any other instance they may not have cause to be. I thought 
they'd be out to isolate America, so that it's fairweather 
friends could stand from the sidelines and say, "sorry it's your 
problem, not ours."

Merlyn: If anybody read that carol closely, and knows their 
carols, they may have noticed that I got one of the lines wrong! 
That's how religious I am. As has been pointed out, we are all 
different personalities on here. Just to reiterate, my focus 
since being on here has been on the condemnation of extremists 
of whatever religion, and also terrorists, whether they be 
religious/non-religious or politcal. No hidden meaning behind me 
stating this to you...I'm just stating that once again for the 
record. Hope you've had/or are having a nice day off, which 
applies of course to the rest of the U.S. nationals that write 
to this board.

Facts Finder: I'm glad to know you're keeping well. You've got a 
great sense of humour, judging by some of your recent posts. 
Take care sir.....Nanu Nanu.     

From: fag police
To: fags
Subject: merlyn, CC
Date: Thu Nov 28 23:58:48 2002

Message:
wigger. nigger. shit. . ha. merlyn sucks . CC sucks even worse, 
i hope walter is uhmmmmmm. happy. hi 

From: Facts Finder
To: Om/CF. Merlyn, Marie, UK citizen, justice, Everyman NC gal, and all those I miss.
Date: Fri Nov 29 00:01:58 2002

Message:
Happy thanksgiving, I hope I not too late. Was rather busy this 
morning.

And thank you Merlyn for your post and may the same be with 
yout too.

From: Facts Finder
To: Om/Cf
Subject: jackie
Date: Fri Nov 29 00:23:55 2002

Message:
Hmmm? I believe somebody must have copy and paste from that 
sites.

From: Facts Finder
To: Merlyn and all
Date: Fri Nov 29 00:29:59 2002

Message:
A Palestinian Cabinet minister, Ghassan Khatib, said Israel's 
occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip "is responsible for 
the continuation of the violence" and both sides should avoid 
harming civilians




The post above is the most common speech the Palestinian 
Authority uses. Why don't they ask why Isreal are there in West 
Bank and Gaza. Do they know the killing of Isreal citizens. 
Both sides should avoid harming civilian, this should be told 
to the extremists not to the Isrealis. If Isreal wanted to harm 
palestinian like how the palestinian wanted to harm the 
Isrealis, I don't think there would be anymore palestinian left.

I feel Isreal should do it once and for all ask the palestinian 
to choose to live in harmony or pack and go to Saudi where the 
land is so big or any Arab nations. None of these muslims 
nation would accept Palestinian like Isreal did.

If you go into history the only land as I mention before that 
belong to philistin is Gaza and that was also conquered by 
Isrealis long before Mohammed.

From: Zsa Zsa
To: all
Subject: Goodbye dahling
Date: Fri Nov 29 00:44:31 2002

Message:
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From:
To:
Date: Fri Nov 29 05:12:15 2002

Message:
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From: Get a grip
To: U.K.Citizen
Subject: No Differance
Date: Fri Nov 29 08:51:53 2002

Message:
At first the cat out of the bag thing kind of jerked the 
American public in a few different directions on 9-11-01. Some, 
like in the U.K. said it was bound to happen. Others were so 
self engrossed in the tech bubble they stood there awe struck. 
And still others were enraged, knowing how much effort had been 
made to help the Muslim fight the Russian invasion of 
Afghanistan, only to turn around and have to help the 
Afghanistan fight off the Saudi (who say they are our friends).
   Nope, if anything it Dammed the Muslim and put one good 
reason NOT to help them ever again. As for religion, it is still 
interesting to see that so many think America was originally a 
place for the Christians to come and kill Indians. People seem 
to forget that the original 13 NEW ENGLAND colonies were mostly 
pagans trying to escape the Roman version of Christian 
opression. Roman Catholic, says it all, and explains why so many 
came to America, despite the hardships and uncertanty. Anything 
was better than paying the extreme taxes and suffering 
persecution. 
  But few know history very well, and often we see this narrow 
focus of ignorance displayed by the Muslim Extremist.  

From: shotszy
To: Get a Grip
Subject: History
Date: Fri Nov 29 09:41:55 2002

Message:
Your absolutely right there are only a few people that know alot
about history and your not one of them.

From: Get a grip
To: Shotszy
Subject: History
Date: Fri Nov 29 11:06:19 2002

Message:
I know from the history of low life forms that you are related 
to the old and little known line of Ignoramus-idiotus, a now 
almost extinct line of self sucking homophobes that still think 
that playing with tirds in the bath tub is a life time endeavor.

From:
To:
Subject: Muslims suck
Date: Fri Nov 29 11:25:10 2002

Message:
The Indian Ocean coast of Kenya, a nation of 30 million people, 
is a predominantly Muslim region, and is a popular international 
tourist destination.


From:
To: get a grip
Date: Fri Nov 29 11:22:56 2002

Message:
Not a proper response for just being told your not a 
historian,but typical for someone who doesn't know what their 
talking about.

From: Get a grip
To:
Subject: Facts about American Colonization
Date: Fri Nov 29 13:13:17 2002

Message:
The coming of colonists in the seventeenth century was the 
result of careful planning and management, and of considerable 
expense and risk. Settlers had to be transported three thousand 
miles across the sea. They needed utensils, clothing, seed, 
tools, building materials, livestock, arms, ammunition. In 
contrast to the colonization policies of other countries and 
other periods, the emigration from England was not fostered by 
the government. Rather, the initiative was taken by unofficial 
groups or by individuals. Two colonies, Virginia and 
Massachusetts, were founded by chartered companies whose funds, 
provided by private investors, were used to equip, transport, 
and maintain the colonists. In the case of the New Haven (later 
a part of Connecticut) colony, well to-do emigrants themselves 
financed the transport and equipment of their families and 
servants. Other settlements - New Hampshire, Maine, Maryland, 
the Carolinas, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania - originally 
belonged to proprietors, members of the English gentry or 
nobility who, as landlords, advanced out of their own resources 
the funds for settling tenants and servants upon lands granted 
to them by the King in the same manner as they might be granted 
an estate at home. Charles I, for instance, granted to Cecil 
Calvert (Lord Baltimore) and his heirs the nearly seven million 
acres which were later to become the state of Maryland; the 
Carolinas and Pennsylvania were given as grants by Charles II. 
Technically, these proprietors and chartered companies were the 
King's tenants, but they made only symbolic payments for their 
lands. Lord Baltimore, for instance, gave the King two Indian 
arrowheads each year, and William Penn contributed two beaver 
skins annually. 

Several colonies were simply offshoots of other settlements. 
Rhode Island and Connecticut were founded by people from 
Massachusetts, the mother-colony of all New England. Still 
another, Georgia, was established largely for benevolent reasons 
by James Edward Oglethorpe and a few other philanthropic 
Englishmen. Their plan was to release imprisoned debtors from 
English jails and send them to America to establish a colony 
which would serve as a bulwark against the Spaniards to the 
south. Founded in 1624 by the Dutch, the colony of New 
Netherlands came under British rule forty years later and was 
renamed New York. 

The most impelling single motive which induced emigrants to 
leave their European homelands was the desire for greater 
economic opportunity. This urge was frequently reinforced by 
other significant considerations such as a yearning for 
religious freedom, a determination to escape political 
oppression, or the lure of adventure. Between 1620 and 1635, 
economic difficulties swept England, and overflowing multitudes 
could not find work. Even the best artisans could earn little 
more than a bare living. Bad crops added to the distress. In 
addition, England's expanding woolen industry demanded an ever 
increasing supply of wool to keep the looms clacking, and sheep-
raisers began to encroach on soil hitherto given over to 
tillage. 

Concurrently, during the religious upheavals of the sixteenth 
and seventeenth centuries, a body of men and women called 
Puritans sought to reform the Established Church of England from 
within. Essentially, their program called for the more complete 
protestantization of the national church, particularly insofar 
as church responsibility for individual conduct was concerned. 
Their reformist ideas threatened to divide the people and to 
undermine royal authority by destroying the unity of the state 
church. A radical sect known as Separatists believed the 
Established Church could never be reformed to their liking. 
During the reign of James I, a small group of these - humble 
country folk - left for Leyden, Holland, where they were allowed 
to practice their religion as they wished. Some years later, a 
part of this Leyden congregation decided to emigrate to the new 
world where, in 1620, they founded the "Pilgrim" colony of New 
Plymouth. 

From: Get a grip
To:
Date: Fri Nov 29 13:16:25 2002

Message:
No we DID NOT come here just to play cowboy and Indians. That 
came MUCH later. The Salem witch trials and other religious 
problems encountered in the colonies led to the American policy 
of FREEDOM OF RELIGION, we were NOT all Christian. NOT BY A LONG 
SHOT. 

From: Get a Grip
To:
Date: Fri Nov 29 13:19:28 2002

Message:
SO Mr. History no name fool. Proove ME wrong!

From: Get a Grip
To:
Date: Fri Nov 29 13:20:11 2002

Message:
Back Up YOUR BULL SHIT

From: Get a grip
To:
Date: Fri Nov 29 13:20:40 2002

Message:
We came here to ESCAPE RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION. 

From: Get a Grip
To:
Date: Fri Nov 29 13:27:38 2002

Message:
Even while Plymouth struggled for existence, other settlements 
were planted nearby. The one which occupied the Massachusetts 
Bay region after 1630 played a particularly significant part in 
the development of New England and of the nation. It was founded 
by some twenty-five men who obtained a royal charter. Some of 
these, together with a group of settlers, came to America 
themselves, bringing the charter with them. They were determined 
to succeed, and though New England proved something less than a 
paradise and some of the colonists went home to nurse their 
disillusion, most set themselves to the stem business of making 
a living and constructing a society suitable to the strong-
minded individu als they were. Within the first ten years, sixty-
five learned preachers deeply versed in theology arrived, and 
the development of a theocracy in Massachusetts took place as a 
logical consequence of its leaders' deep conviction. In theory, 
the church and state were separate. Actually they were one, all 
institutions being subordinated to religion. Soon a system of 
government, theocratic and authoritarian, evolved. At town 
meetings, however, there was opportunity for discussion of 
public problems, and settlers thereby received a certain amount 
of experience in selfgovernment. And though the towns developed 
around the church organization, the whole population, by the 
very exigencies of frontier life, shared in civic obligations 
and in consultative meetings. Still, for years the clergy and 
conservative laymen attempted to maintain conformity. 

They did not succeed, however, in binding the mind of every 
citizen or curbing the tongue of the inspired zealot. Such a 
rebel was Roger Williams, a minister of blameless life, a 
brilliant man learned in the law, who questioned both the right 
of taking the Indians' land and the wisdom of keeping church and 
state unified. For spreading his "new and dangerous opinion 
against the authority of the magistrates," he was sentenced by 
the general court to banishment. He found refuge among friendly 
Indians in Rhode Island and soon established a colony there 
based on the concepts that men might believe as they wished and 
that church and state would be forever separate. 

But heretics in search of liberty of conscience were not the 
only ones who left Massachusetts. Even orthodox Puritans seeking 
better lands and opportunity made their way from the colony. 
News of the fertility of the Connecticut River Valley, for 
instance, early attracted the interest of farmers having a 
difficult time with poor land. They were ready to brave the 
danger of the Indians for level ground and deep soil. 
Significantly, these groups, in setting up a government, 
extended the franchise and eliminated church membership as a 
prerequisite for voting. Concurrently, other Massachusetts 
settlers filtered into the region to the north, and soon New 
Hampshire and Maine were colonized by men and women seeking 
liberty and land. 


From:
To: get a grip
Date: Fri Nov 29 13:21:18 2002

Message:
your too stupid to face facts,it would be a waste of time.

From: Get a grip
To:
Date: Fri Nov 29 13:28:13 2002

Message:
See the word "Christian" anywhere? I don't, and you won't untill 
much later in the HISTORY of AMERICA. And guess what, NONE OF 
THE FOUNDING FATHERS WERE CHRISTIAN. Not one. 

From:
To:
Date: Fri Nov 29 13:31:51 2002

Message:
YOU ARE TOO STUPID to face facts. YOU are an Ignoramous

From:
To: get a grip
Date: Fri Nov 29 13:31:16 2002

Message:
we came here to escape candyasses like you.

From: Get a grip
To:
Date: Fri Nov 29 13:32:30 2002

Message:
In fact you are just the same idiot who pretended to be Walter. 
So go fuck off. I know my history, and you can't prove me wrong.
In fact you are too chicken shit to even admit who you are. 

From:
To:
Date: Fri Nov 29 13:33:21 2002

Message:
people like you who rape kids and try to talk people into 
comitting suicide.

From: Get a grip
To:
Date: Fri Nov 29 13:34:40 2002

Message:
You came here? like this is a place to escape to? You really 
need a check up from the neck up

From: Get a grip
To:
Date: Fri Nov 29 13:35:47 2002

Message:
People like you play with your tirds in the bath tub and Nuke 
kittens

From: Get a grip
To:
Date: Fri Nov 29 13:36:26 2002

Message:
You like to pretend you are Walter and FAIL even doing that

From: Get a grip
To: Candy ass wimp
Date: Fri Nov 29 13:37:13 2002

Message:
Have a nice time fucking your chicken today. Remember to get 
lots of Duct tape at homo depo

From: Get a grip
To: candy ass
Date: Fri Nov 29 13:38:13 2002

Message:
Remember..........
       Suck hard & Blow often ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

From:
To: get a grip
Date: Fri Nov 29 13:42:34 2002

Message:
you always say that you run your own busines and have a wife and 
shit but your always here 24/7 and all of us know your a lier.

From:
To: get a grip
Date: Fri Nov 29 13:45:11 2002

Message:
the only thing you run is youre mouth.you dont know any history
your too stupid to know religin but you think if you just keep 
runnin your mouth that everybody will believe you      we dont
you make an udder fool of yourself every day   most of us laugh 
at you because of your stupidity

From: Get a Grip
To:
Date: Fri Nov 29 13:45:33 2002

Message:
Well guess what. I am always here because my computers are in my 
place of business. and that happens to also be my home. Ha! no 
commute, no boss, no employees. Just me all day 24/7 
   Mostly I am here while I wait between coats of paint, nothing 
better to do but surf & chat. I work today, doing Powdercoating 
on a stage 4 racing engine for a 1989 HD Softail. 
             Sorry, but NO LIE.
  Some of us REALLY DO HAVE IT MADE! and you? always here and 
always acting like a candy ass? What do YOU DO? computer 
programmer HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!! low life!

From: Get a Grip
To:
Date: Fri Nov 29 13:50:45 2002

Message:
No you are the only one who is a stupid fool. I know my facts, 
and study them well. 

From: Get a grip
To:
Date: Fri Nov 29 13:51:48 2002

Message:
If you are so certain I am wrong PROVE IT!!!!!!
         >YOU CAN'T<
 HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From:
To: get a grip
Date: Fri Nov 29 13:49:31 2002

Message:
we laugh at your homophobia remarks and we laugh at youre lies
we laugh at youre pridictions,and we laugh when you get youre 
own lies shoved up your own ass.

From: Get a grip
To:
Date: Fri Nov 29 13:52:41 2002

Message:
Because the only thing you study is SHIT, and how to eat it!
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From:
To:
Date: Fri Nov 29 13:53:19 2002

Message:
I laugh at YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From: feminine
To: u know who
Date: Fri Nov 29 13:48:15 2002

Message:
i luv it when u dress me up in your mothers clothes and spank me 
over your knee. just be careful not to drive my butt plug in any 
deeper though ok baby?      
               

From: Get a grip
To:
Date: Fri Nov 29 13:53:44 2002

Message:
Mostly because you live here, 24/7 and can't ever leave. You 
make rude remarks and spam the board. Act like a potty mouth 
child and hate women. You are REALLY SICK too. Did you ever 
wonder why you are so sick?? You mean NOTHING to any one here. 
We all think you SUCK. No one like you and you never have any 
friends. BOOOO fucking HOOOO to YOU HA!!
     ANd you still can't admit who you are

From: Get a grip
To:
Date: Fri Nov 29 13:56:34 2002

Message:
Well, anyway. I feel sorry for you sometimes. Kind of like a 
roach when I step on it. LOL!!!!!! 

From:
To: get a grip
Date: Fri Nov 29 13:52:57 2002

Message:
when you write about youre work its always one job you never 
write about 2 jobs the same day. one paint job a day and you 
tell everybody youre rich hahahahahahahaha
whats the name of your company? hahahahaha I worked for a bike 
shop and they would have gone out of busines if they stood 
around and waited for paint to dry.

From: Westfield Publishing
To: Marie
Date: Fri Nov 29 13:54:57 2002

Message:
Please forgive the delay in your subscription.  Dykes On Bikes 
pinup calendar 2003 is just off of the presses, and will be 
shipped to you at no cost to you.  This is our way of saying 
thank you for all of your years of faithful reading!           
        

From: feminine
To: u know who
Date: Fri Nov 29 13:48:15 2002

Message:
i luv it when u dress me up in your mothers clothes and spank me 
over your knee. just be careful not to drive my butt plug in any 
deeper though ok baby?      
               

From:
To: get a grip
Date: Fri Nov 29 13:59:20 2002

Message:
caught>>>>>>and youre lies shoved right up youre ass!

From:
To: get a grip
Date: Fri Nov 29 14:01:56 2002

Message:
GET A GRIP HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE RUNNING JOKE OF THE BORD.
EVERYONE HAS ALWAYS LAUGHED AT YOU.

From: Get a grip
To:
Date: Fri Nov 29 14:10:37 2002

Message:
At this point I am working 12 jobs right now. So SHOVE THAT UP 
YOUR ASS!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!! and guess what I know 
you don't do anything but piss and moan!!!!!!!!!
   Sure I paint one at a time. Perhapse I should paint you a 
picture. A picture of a faggot in a bath tub playing with is 
tirds and fucking a chicken. 

From:
To:
Date: Fri Nov 29 14:14:53 2002

Message:
Have a nice day ...............LMAO!!

From:
To: Get a grip
Date: Fri Nov 29 14:46:23 2002

Message:
Sounds like you have had a lot experience with chickens and 
turds is this a passing fancy?

From:
To: Get a grip
Subject: Chickens
Date: Fri Nov 29 14:59:15 2002

Message:
Yea , now we know how you got the handle "Get a grip".Maybe you 
should change it to "Had a grip".

From:
To: Get a grip
Subject: Evangelist were Christians
Date: Fri Nov 29 15:09:52 2002

Message:
HOME - EXHIBITION OVERVIEW - OBJECT LIST
SECTIONS: I. America as Refuge - II. 18th Century America
III. American Revolution - IV. Congress of the Confederation - 
V. State Governments
VI. Federal Government - VII. New Republic
 
VII. Religion and the New Republic
The religion of the new American republic was evangelicalism, 
which, between 1800 and the Civil War, was the "grand absorbing 
theme" of American religious life. During some years in the 
first half of the nineteenth century, revivals (through which 
evangelicalism found expression) occurred so often that 
religious publications that specialized in tracking them lost 
count. In 1827, for example, one journal exulted 
that "revivals, we rejoice to say, are becoming too numerous in 
our country to admit of being generally mentioned in our 
Record." During the years between the inaugurations of Thomas 
Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln, historians see "evangelicalism 
emerging as a kind of national church or national religion." 
The leaders and ordinary members of the "evangelical empire" of 
the nineteenth century were American patriots who subscribed to 
the views of the Founders that religion was a "necessary 
spring" for republican government; they believed, as a preacher 
in 1826 asserted, that there was "an association between 
Religion and Patriotism." Converting their fellow citizens to 
Christianity was, for them, an act that simultaneously saved 
souls and saved the republic. The American Home Missionary 
Society assured its supporters in 1826 that "we are doing the 
work of patriotism no less than Christianity." With the 
disappearance of efforts by government to create morality in 
the body politic (symbolized by the termination in 1833 of 
Massachusetts's tax support for churches) evangelical, 
benevolent societies assumed that role, bringing about what 
today might be called the privatization of the responsibility 
for forming a virtuous citizenry.

 

From:
To: Had a grip
Date: Fri Nov 29 15:13:05 2002

Message:
George Washington's
1789 Thanksgiving Proclamation 
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Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the 
providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful 
for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and 
favor; and Whereas both Houses of Congress have, by their joint 
committee, requested me "to recommend to the people of the 
United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer, to be 
observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many and 
signal favors of Almighty God, especially by affording them an 
opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for 
their safety and happiness:"

Now, therefore, I do recommend and assign Thursday, the 26th 
day of November next, to be devoted by the people of these 
States to the service of that great and glorious Being who is 
the beneficent author of all the good that was, that is, or 
that will be; that we may then all unite in rendering unto Him 
our sincere and humble thanks for His kind care and protection 
of the people of this country previous to their becoming a 
nation; for the signal and manifold mercies and the favorable 
interpositions of His providence in the course and conclusion 
of the late war; for the great degree of tranquility, union, 
and plenty which we have since enjoyed; for the peaceable and 
rational manner in which we have been enable to establish 
constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and 
particularly the national one now lately instituted' for the 
civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed, and the 
means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge; and, 
in general, for all the great and various favors which He has 
been pleased to confer upon us.

And also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our 
prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of 
Nations and beseech Him to pardon our national and other 
transgressions; to enable us all, whether in public or private 
stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly 
and punctually; to render our National Government a blessing to 
all the people by constantly being a Government of wise, just, 
and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and 
obeyed; to protect and guide all sovereigns and nations 
(especially such as have show kindness to us), and to bless 
them with good governments, peace, and concord; to promote the 
knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the 
increase of science among them and us; and, generally to grant 
unto all mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as He 
alone knows to be best.

Given under my hand, at the city of New York, the 3d dy of 
October, A.D. 1789.

(signed) G. Washington


From:
To: Had a grip
Subject: Faith of our Country's Founders
Date: Fri Nov 29 15:38:50 2002

Message:
America's Founders and Presidents Speak for Themselves 

The highest glory of the American Revolution was this: that it 
connected in one indissoluble bond civil government with the 
principles of Christianity. John Quincy Adams 

The moral principles and precepts contained in the Scriptures 
ought to form the basis of all our civil constitutions and 
laws. All the miseries and evils which men suffer from vice, 
crime, ambition, injustice, oppression, slavery, and war, 
proceed from their despising or neglecting the precepts 
contained in the Bible. Noah Webster 

We have staked the future of government not upon the power of 
government, far from it. We have staked the future of all of 
our political institutions on the capacity of each and all of 
us to govern ourselves according to the ten commandments of 
God. James Madison (primary architect of the Constitution) 

I have lived, Sir, a long time, and the longer I live, the more 
convincing proofs I see of this truth: "that God governs in the 
affairs of man." And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground 
without His notice, is it probable that an empire can rise 
without His aid? 

We have been assured, Sir, in the Sacred Writings that except 
the Lord build the house, they labor in vain that build it. I 
firmly believe this. I also believe that without His concurring 
aid, we shall succeed in the political building no better than 
the builders of Babel; we shall be divided by our little, 
partial local interests; our projects will be confounded; and 
we ourselves shall become a reproach and a byword down to 
future ages. And what is worse, mankind may hereafter from this 
unfortunate instance, despair of establishing government by 
human wisdom and leave it to chance, war or conquest. 

I therefore beg leave to move that, henceforth, prayers 
imploring the assistance of Heaven and its blessing on our 
deliberation be held in this assembly every morning before we 
proceed to business. Benjamin Franklin, at the Constitutional 
Convention 

(Historical note to above: the convention was then adjourned 
for three days of prayer, Bible reading and special church 
meetings, following which the Constitution was discussed and 
adopted.) 

No people can be bound to acknowledge and adore the invisible 
hand which conducts the affairs of men more than the people of 
the United States. Every step by which they have advanced to 
the character of an independent nation seems to have been 
distinguished by some token of providential agency . . . We 
ought to be no less persuaded that the propitious smiles of 
Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the 
eternal rules of order and right, which Heaven itself has 
ordained. George Washington, Inaugural Address 

(Historical note to above: Washington added the pledge, "So 
help me God," to his inaugural oath. He then kissed the Bible 
to affirm his submission to the King of Kings.) 

Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political 
prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. 
And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality 
can be maintained without religion. . . . Reason and experience 
both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in 
exclusion of religious principle. George Washington, Farewell 
Address 

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious 
people. So great is my veneration of the Bible that the earlier 
my children begin to read it, the more confident will be my 
hope that they will prove useful citizens of their country and 
respectful members of society. John Adams 

The Bible is the best gift God has ever given to man . . . But 
for it we could not know right from wrong. Abraham Lincoln 

It is the duty of nations, as well as of men, to own their 
dependence upon the overruling power of God and to recognize 
the sublime truth announced in the Holy Scriptures and proven 
by all history, that those nations only are blessed whose God 
is the Lord. Abraham Lincoln 

The Bible is the rock on which our Republic rests. Andrew 
Jackson 

Hold fast to the Bible as the sheet anchor of your liberties; 
write its precepts in your hearts and practice them in your 
lives. To the influence of this book we are indebted for all 
the progress made in true civilization and to this we must look 
as our guide in the future. Ulysses S. Grant 

 


From:
To: Had a grip
Subject: Ignorance and Intelligence
Date: Fri Nov 29 16:13:21 2002

Message:
Ignorance is a lack of knowledge. I guess understanding the 
definition I would have to say I am Ignorant because there is 
no way I can possibly know about everything. Intelligence is 
the ability to think and learn and then apply the learnings. I 
guess I would have to say I'm intelligent because I've learmed 
how to use this computer to communicate with you. I still think 
your ok even though you sometimes take on the characteristics 
of an anal aperture.

From: anal aperture
To: above
Date: Fri Nov 29 17:05:12 2002

Message:
What do you have against we anal apertures?  If only you 
realized how much shit we have to take!                     
                  

From:
To: above
Date: Fri Nov 29 17:16:42 2002

Message:
I don't have anything against anal apertures their like 
opinions everyone has one.

From:
To: Had a grip
Subject: Name
Date: Fri Nov 29 17:20:23 2002

Message:
What my name is isn't important, I should be judged by what I 
say.

From:
To: all
Subject: Roll Call
Date: Fri Nov 29 17:51:34 2002

Message:
I'm here

From:
To:
Date: Fri Nov 29 18:24:08 2002

Message:
Why don't you write it on a dollar bill and shove it up your 
dead mothers ass? 

From:
To:
Date: Fri Nov 29 18:29:55 2002

Message:
If we judge you by what you say you are the biggest ass hole 
anyone has ever seen.

From: Help 4 U
To: ALL
Subject: Pagan Assholes
Date: Fri Nov 29 18:33:41 2002

Message:
I love Christmas. But then, I love any holiday where people I 
don't talk to or even really like give me presents. Like my 
parents, for instance. It doesn't matter that I'm a Jew. I mean 
Hanukkah, feh, Hanukkah, no one gave a shit about that pidly 
little holiday until some Jew realized it was right around 
Christmas, and then they all started giving presents so they 
wouldn't feel left out. We have Christians to thank for 
Hanukkah, and when you think about it Hanukkah's the only Jewish 
Holiday that's any fun. You have to fast on Yom Kipper, so that 
sucks donkey dick, Passover's a joke and you can't even eat 
risen bread, Rosh Hashanah - yeah, Jews see that as the new 
year - it's really 5758 - right, sure, whatever, and what does 
that leave? Purim? Fuck that shit, we all know Hanukkah's where 
it's at. Even the Christians put menorahs in their stores on 
Hanukkah, because they don't want us to feel bad. 

Christianity had the wisdom to suck all these pagan traditions 
into their holidays, shit with dancing around fir trees and 
bunnies and shit, and make their holidays fun, while in the 
process sucking everything that was actually Christian out of 
them. And thank god, because who wants to think of some dying, 
naked guy nailed to a tree and telling us that we're all sinners 
but he forgives us and shit when there's PARTYING to do! 

The fact is that for the majority of Americans the holiday 
season is just another series of excuses to get drunk and fuck 
someone you hardly know. People get all sappy and sentimental 
and recall decorating the Christmas Tree as a kid and all the 
new years gone by and that one Jewish friend they barely know 
and wish happy Hanukkah to, and feel so good about themselves 
afterward for. Please. We should just rename Christmas "Greed 
and Sex Day" and be done with it. Or perhaps title 
Christmas "Greed Day" and Valentine's day "Sex Day" or "Sex Day 
except for Hallmark, for Whom it is Also Greed Day". 

So maybe I'm a little jaded. "Where's your Christmas Spirit?" 
you might say, "Where's your love and kindness?" 

Let me be honest for a second. I know I sound bitter and 
resentful and have a chip on my shoulder etc. etc., but I have 
trouble understanding the whole Christmas spirit thing. Let's 
all pick some arbitrary day when supposedly some Messiah was 
born, though it's well documented that he was actually born in 
April and the holiday was moved to around the Winter Solstice to 
appease the Mithrites, but who cares, let's pick this arbitrary 
day and have everyone pretend that they like each other for a 
while before we go back to our workaday lives. Honestly, it 
gives me kind of a creepy feeling. It's like when I had my Bar-
Mitzvah. 

There I am, thirteen years old, in a Synagogue full of relatives 
from the farthest flung reaches of my family tree, most of which 
I had never met before, reciting prayers in Hebrew that I didn't 
understand and wouldn't agree with even if I did, phonetically, 
and I'm there doing this for one simple reason. The money. And I 
don't mind telling you it was a lot of money. The thing is that 
it has always bothered me that I let myself, even at that age, 
to be so shallow. To lie in another language in front of a room 
full of people I pretended to like for money. And I feel like I 
look around at people around Christmas and see them getting 
together with their families and co-workers, well, not just for 
presents, but also for a sort of pretense of companionship that 
comes from spending time around people, any people, on 
a "holiday" whatever you may think of them, just so you won't 
feel alone. 

Maybe all you other folks don't see Christmas like I do, maybe 
it really is a time in which you feel great, but somehow I think 
that proportion is smaller then most would think, or that we 
would like to think. 

And so I lied, I really don't love Christmas. But, now that I've 
gotten going, there is something I really want to talk about, 
about this particular Christmas and why I feel better about it 
then any other Christmas. 

You see, I grew up in money; my immediate family, my extended 
family, they all have money. And my parents would always use it 
as a way of controlling me and my brother, the threat of being 
cut off always looming over our head. My parents stopped giving 
me Christmas presents a long time ago, replacing them with 
checks for a standardized amount of money, representing the 
gifts from my parents and grandparents in toto. Sort of takes 
the mystery out of the thing, but then, after I outgrew the 
contents of Toys "R" Us, my parents idea of presents became 
boxers with skiers and monkeys and shit on them and expensive 
ties in garish colors that I would never, ever wear even if I 
wore ties in the first place. Which should tell you something 
significant about my relationship with my parents. 

As I have mentioned before in the last few articles, I'm on my 
way to getting a full time job. This morning I accepted a 
lucrative job offer at StarMedia.com. And a couple weeks ago I 
wrote a letter to my parents telling them, in summery, to take 
their money and shove it. 

They didn't understand the letter at all, and they sent me a 
couple checks around Hanukkah time. I ripped them up. It's my 
Christmas present to myself. I will not be spending Christmas 
with them. I will no longer spend time with people for no other 
reason then because I feel obligated financially. And I will no 
longer owe anything I have to someone else's money. 

I guess it's not what most people think of as Christmas spirit, 
I certainly don't think I'd feel comfortable calling it that, 
but it feels good. 

Well, I don't think anyone expected a YanktheChain article to 
wind down like this. Certainly not me. I even had some links 
picked out about how Jesus was really Satan and that sort of 
thing. But hey, I think I'm actually going to have a good 
Christmas. Imagine that. So Merry FUCKING Christmas, everyone. 


From:
To:
Date: Fri Nov 29 19:21:15 2002

Message:
It's a little much but you could write it on a dollar bill, both 
sides, and shove it up your dead mothers ass on christmas eve.

From:
To:
Subject: YOU KICKED GET A GRIPS ASS!
Date: Fri Nov 29 19:24:47 2002

Message:
took his lies and shoved them right up his pagan ass!

From: om/cf
To: all & the mysterious argumentitive one
Date: Fri Nov 29 18:16:33 2002

Message:
Walter by any other (or no) name is still, Walter....and I was 
so hoping to have the inside track on a good deal on a fishbowl 
Pacer and a rusted out Pinto rewired by Spy. Damn!

U.K. Citizen: Good to hear from you....but that kidney pie? What 
am I talking about, I chopped up a turkey liver, a heart and 
part of a gizzard (whatever that is) and put it in the gravy 
yesterday! Well, Israeli's seem to be the target of choice 
lately (as if they ever were not). What amazes me about the 
attacks in Kenya is not the attack on the resort - a simple 'ram 
it in there' vehicle bomb. But, how did a 757 jetliner with 
engines going full bore on takeoff escape being hit by two SAM 7 
heat seeking missles with a range of three miles but fired from 
less than a mile? The Isreali airline industry has worked on a 
defence system against surface-to-air missle attacks which 
involves dropping extremly high temperature flares to make the 
missles miss but the drawback was, once the flares hit the 
ground they started major fires. I think those people in that 
plane were extremely lucky souls, unlike those aboard TWA 800 in 
the U.S.

ALL: Business service providers take note. I fired my ISP of two 
years today and switched to a new one. I've had constant trouble 
connecting AND getting them to respond - "a service tech will 
call you back soon" blah, blah, blah. Never happens. The guy 
answering the phone actually laughed today when I told 
him "you're fired, discontinue my service as of this minute". 
What in the hell has happened in business in general? At what 
point did it become shiek to be condesending towards, and treat 
the customer like shit? They should feel lucky to HAVE a job or 
a business IMHO!




From: om/cf
To: Help 4 U
Date: Fri Nov 29 19:35:45 2002

Message:
Instead of ripping up the checks your parents send, would you 
have a problem signing the back and sending them to me? LOL!!

From: Allah
To:
Date: Fri Nov 29 19:46:20 2002

Message:
Soon the end will come for you, unless you grow big long beards 
and never listen to music again, otherwise it is CURTAINS for 
you.

Long live beards!

From: North Carolina Gal
To: All
Date: Fri Nov 29 19:53:14 2002

Message:
Hope all of you had a Happy Thanksgiving! I had a great day with 
the family and had lots to be thankful for... Boy where does the 
time fly? Christmas is right around the conner... Happy Holidays 
Everyone

From:
To: URACunt/ U Know who
Date: Fri Nov 29 20:03:43 2002

Message:
John Quincy Adams was a Jew Loving homo. They all adopted 
Christianity in time. You have proved nothing, except that you 
know very little. Get a grip made his point. If we are to go by 
what you say you are a perverted ass hole of the magnitude never 
before seen by even the largest piece of shit. Even now 
Christians become a lower and lower number in the United States 
and even now are a minority. Your faking of Walter committing 
suicide surely points to the fact that you truly are a very sick 
and sad maggot so low you have become that desperate to get 
attention. Take a witches broomstick and shove that up your dead 
mothers ass.

From: CC
To: All
Subject: HAPPY THANKS GIVING
Date: Fri Nov 29 20:01:38 2002

Message:

From: ZZ Top
To: Allahlala, allahlala, hey hey, goodbye
Date: Fri Nov 29 21:15:33 2002

Message:
We're with ya on the beards but whats with this no music 
crapattohla...

My Sharia Amour, 
good enough for some emir 
My Sharia Amour, 
I'm the guy you like to fear

My Sharia Amour, 
pretty little girl in your chador 
One of only four that I beat sore 
How I wish that I had five.

Allah-la-la-la
Allah-la-la-Allah-la




From:
To:
Subject: Greatful Dead
Date: Fri Nov 29 22:22:33 2002

Message:
The Blues for Allah Minchalla

From:
To: all
Subject: ANAL APERTURES
Date: Fri Nov 29 23:01:08 2002

Message:
Isn't it amazing when you put a communication tool in front of 
some people the only thing that comes out is profanity. These 
are the people with an IQ of 40 who have self esteem that is so 
low the only way they can express themselves is by talking like 
a babbleing idiot. I guess there are still alot of good people 
out there and we need to ignore the comments amd profanity of 
the mindless wonders.

From: a concerned
To: whom it may concern
Subject: Gods own Country
Date: Fri Nov 29 23:33:20 2002

Message:
Nazism gave us some dreadful, fundamental things to think about...
and kept us so busy with continuous changes and crises and so
fascinated... by the machinations of the national enemies, without
and within, that we had no time to think about these dreadful things
that were growing, little by little all around us... Each step was so
small, so inconsequential, so well explained or, on occasion,
regretted, that... unless one understood what the whole thing was in
principle, what all these little measures... must someday lead to,
one no more saw it developing than a farmer in his field sees corn
growing...

Each act... is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait
for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion,
thinking that others, when such shock comes, will join you in
resisting somehow. You don't want to act, or even talk, alone; you
don't want to go out of your way to make trouble.... And it is not
just fear... that restrains you; it is also genuine uncertainty...
And you are an alarmist. You are saying that this must lead to this,
and you can't prove it...

But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or
thousands will join with you, never comes. That's the difficulty...
The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses,
the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the
cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because
you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is
changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who
hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is
transformed, no one is transformed... You have accepted things you
would not have accepted five years ago, a year ago, things your
father... could never have imagined.

-- Milton Mayer, They Thought They Were Free; The Germans, 1938-45
(University of Chicago Press, 1955)

From: Justice
To: om/cf
Subject: ISP's
Date: Fri Nov 29 23:43:07 2002

Message:
I totally feel your pain.  I have to deal with Verizon, SWBell, 
AT&T, MCI, and others on a daily basis.  The left hand doesn't 
even know what the right hand is doing.  Verizon for some reason 
cut off our Internet service at work during the middle of the 
day a couple of months ago.  I accumulated about 8 different 
phone numbers trying to get a hold of someone to fix it.  They 
kept pointing fingers and saying they would call back and it's 
not their department blah blah blah.  What a pain in the ass.

From:
To: a concerned
Subject: Gods own country
Date: Fri Nov 29 23:42:07 2002

Message:
I don't think I can accept the excuse for Nazism and the way it 
influenced the German people. They were all very aware of what 
was happening and chose to do nothing about it.

From: Amerika
To:
Date: Sat Nov 30 00:08:16 2002

Message:
They were all very aware of what was happening and chose to do 
nothing about it.

From: U.K.Citizen
To: Merlyn, Help 4 You, Om/cf
Date: Sat Nov 30 01:28:24 2002

Message:
Merlyn: My modus operandi (snazzy term huh) on this board, has 
been to steer well clear of religion simply because I'm not 
religious. I'm not saying that's necessarily a good thing..being 
non-religious that is. I'm just not. But anyway it follows on 
that I'm no religious scholar either. I'm not too interested in 
the merits or demerits of any one religion as such, and so have 
no wish to get drawn into any related 'discussion'. What's 
patently obvious, is that muslim extremism in it's most virulent 
form, represented by al-Qaeda, is providing at the very LEAST a 
worldwide PR disaster for muslims, through it's ongoing 
catalogue of attrocities. If a New York or Tokyo 'type' attack 
happened in Britain, I'd be honest enough to say that I wouldn't 
choose my words as carefully as I aim to do normally. I never 
wished to judge the outrage of those who posted here this time 
last year. I obviouly wasn't in their position. Saying that, 
after over 30 years of IRA domestic terrorism, the mindset of 
the British public has learnt to take that kind of situation 
onboard. Okay so the IRA aren't trying to spread catholicism to 
Britian via the bomb and the bullet, it's all political now, but 
religion WAS initially the root cause going back centuries.

For what it's worth, I think if a 9-11 type incident happened in 
a British city, we'd just have to try and take it in our stride, 
as we normally do in such situations. What choice is there? So 
long as it doesn't undermine our spirit, or our principles, then 
the battle's never lost.

Help 4 You: From a Pagan arsehole...that was one of the most 
entertaining posts I've read in quite awhile, previouly aware 
that having a Christmas tree was indeed a Pagan custom, not to 
mention a major fire hazard. You tell a good story and you're 
funny as hell with it. There's not much more I can add really, 
except that if there's any other topic you've an opinion on, I'm 
quite sure it would make good reading. If that's a one-off post, 
well..then have a Merry F*****g Christmas too.

(Facts Finder, do please excuse my language on that one.)

Om/cf: If Walter shows up any time soon, then I've made a fuss 
about nothing, and then again if not, I've really no idea what 
to think. Shall say no more on that.:\

As far as steak and kidney pie goes, I've never tried it, and 
never will. That btw goes for Spotted Dick too. A once harmless 
name for a simple sponge desert in gentler, more naive times, 
long gone. Now corrupted and twisted into a grotesque goldmine-
like source of endless humour way too easy to exploit, and on 
sale in all 'good' supermarkets. I still to this day don't how 
they get away with selling it with the name it has. Surreal. 

Regarding the Israeli airliner. Those evil idiots were obviously 
amatures, as if ANY terrorist is a 'professional'. When they 
fired the SAM's they followed their original ballistic 
trajectory it seems, probably because they didn't get the chance 
to lock onto any fixed heat source for long enough. Cowardice 
like that deserves ill fortune, at the very least. Looks like 
Lady Luck stuck around, for once........Keep well.        

From:
To: U.k. CITIZEN
Subject: MUSLIMS AND TERRORIST
Date: Sat Nov 30 10:08:18 2002

Message:
You have to keep in mind terrorist are endowed with a very weak 
mind, having this weak mind they are unable to think for 
themselves. Unable to think for themselves they listen to what 
their Mullahs tell them to do, not realizing of course what 
they are doing is destroying the way the world feels about the 
Islamic religion. The religion they think gives their actions 
credibility because of misinterpretations by their very own 
Mullahs. The unfortunate thing is Muslims around the world are 
not coming out and condeming these terrorist actions. This 
gives the impression they approve of what the terrorist are 
doing. Hence people are attacking the Muslim religion as a 
religion of terror, and who knows maybe their right.

From: Merlyn
To: U.K.Citizen
Subject: Egypt and Saudi interests
Date: Sat Nov 30 10:10:42 2002

Message:
Some would have to point to the Muslims as "supporters" of what 
we see going on. The Muslim is more truly the "victim" of what 
is going on. Divide and rule, is the work of the politician. As 
with anything religious, bring religion into it and you quickly 
have division. Then it is easy to conquer, while the factions 
fight amongst themselves. It is and has been at work in America 
for a very long time. Make a two party partisan system, Democrat 
and republican, and keep the public divided and thinking they 
can control the process, and the government maintains control 
effortlessly. Simple dynamics of politics. 
   The American public plods along with it, but I see it is just 
driving the rest of the world crazy and in an outsider view you 
can see the hypocritical nature of the American Government. The 
American people like the constant debate and spectacle of the 
political struggle and find the public makes small steps each 
election. My problem is as the Muslim points out, that it is 
very wasteful and self-defeating. We look at the 
Muslim "Religious Rule" as stagnant and subjective. And truly it 
is. Now if you are happy to be stagnant and subjected, that 
works for them. 
  In the outset of trying to bring democracy (really republic 
thinking) to a Muslim country, is bull headed and short sighted. 
It just does not work. This is one reason that I feel Iraq is so 
hard to understand for Americans. It is a very different mindset 
of people. A Monarchy can survive in such a hostile water 
starved environment. One could only imagine the capitalist in 
such a place. Literally in control of water and every life-
giving thing. It scares the people there to even think of that 
as they truly cannot trust each other. Their culture is much 
different then ours and to them it would mean tribal fighting 
and returning to having no control. As best I can see that is 
what they think. And why it really is wrong for America to 
tamper with another countries way of life. 
   Now when it comes to them attacking the US or the UK, then 
that means war. They know that and if indeed America wants to 
screw with Iraq, America must prepare to own it. The UK tried to 
colonize Afghanistan, sort of, long ago. Only to find it just 
didn't work. Jews should not try to colonize in other peoples 
land. It is no better than anyone else s oppression or ideals 
being pushed on others. 
   When it comes to religion, I don't think any one religion is 
any better than another. If you study them all, you find more 
similarity than you find difference. On the surface they seem 
very different, but in the interaction and beliefs they 
basically are all very much the same, differing mostly to suit 
the needs geographically and culturally of the people who 
practice them. 

When it comes to scuds being launched on passenger jets, it is a 
statement. I tend to agree that the airline industry has over 
done itself, and now many stand on the brink of collapse. I 
really do not think people need to be flying all over the place 
when you consider how much fuel it takes to run all the planes 
that fly on any given day. Nor do I agree with the amount of 
fuel wasted on people who drive to work every day when they 
could move closer or even live where they work. 
   They are crying out "stop wasting our precious fuel" and the 
American political process is def to the cry. Most of us could 
drive to work in an electric vehicle, and an electric vehicle 
uses energy too, but its energy is less costly to produce. A 
gasoline engine in a car wastes around 60% of its energy. An 
electric car wasts none. Producing the electric power is around 
five times more efficient at a power plant, and if done by wind 
or hydro, 100 time more eficient.
  We just havent taken that step yet. When we do, the money will 
go into development and make electric cars much better than they 
are now. They have drawbacks, short distance, battery 
replacement costs and such. But with development and 
engeneering, these problams would be ended quickly. 
  A simple wind generator and storage unit would make enough 
energy to power your electric car, and you would be able to 
live "off the grid" and pollute no more. 
   It needs to be done, and it needs to be done now. 
          We shall se it coming soon as they are on the market 
already. Planes on the other hand, don't have an answer. As of 
yet there is no other way. But then again it isn't a "need" to 
fly a plane, for most people. Just a luxury we could live with 
out.
   Take care
          Merlyn   

From: Merlyn
To: board goat
Subject: Muslims as Terrorists
Date: Sat Nov 30 10:55:51 2002

Message:
I also agree with you, in that the muslim religion 
has "allowable agression" as long as it is against anyone who is 
not Muslim. That is not the only religion that has thought this 
way. The Christian crusades are an example, and there are many 
others to include the Vikings etc. It is refromation that must 
change this, and in fact, the Quran has been rewritten around 
five times already. I would like to realy see the original 
version, it would be intersting to see if it was worse or better 
in this reguard, or just the same. 

From: NC Gal
To: nigger's and saudi's
Date: Sat Nov 30 10:48:52 2002

Message:
i want a black santa to give me anal sex, or a saudi santa.

From: Merlyn
To:
Date: Sat Nov 30 11:03:32 2002

Message:
As for a weak mind, that is yet another point. Control of 
psycological development like the Mullah does to the Muslim does 
in fact result in a weak mind. Given normal development and a 
few generations of change, this is a different Muslim. I know 
three personally. One owns a resturaunt, selling some very good 
Afghanistan food. Another owns a construction company, 
remodeling homes, and the other owns a bar, he is a lazy sucker, 
but very friendly. 

From:
To: Help 4 U
Subject: Christmas experience
Date: Sat Nov 30 11:37:38 2002

Message:
Cure for Sorrow
  by: Brian Cavanaugh, T.O.R., The Sower's Seeds 

 
 
 
 
 
There is an old Chinese tale about a woman whose only son died. 
In her grief, she went to the holy man and said, "What prayers, 
what magical incantations do you have to bring my son back to 
life?" 

Instead of sending her away or reasoning with her, he said to 
her, "Fetch me a mustard seed from a home that has never known 
sorrow. We will use it to drive the sorrow out of your life." 
The woman went off at once in search of that magical mustard 
seed. 

She came first to a splendid mansion, knocked at the door, and 
said, "I am looking for a home that has never known sorrow. Is 
this such a place? It is very important to me." 

They told her, "You've certainly come to the wrong place," and 
began to describe all the tragic things that recently had 
befallen them. 

The woman said to herself, "Who is better able to help these 
poor, unfortunate people that I, who have had misfortune of my 
my own?" Shestayed to comfort them, then went on in search of a 
home that had never known sorrow. But wherever she turned, in 
hovels and in other places, she found one tale after another of 
sadness and misfortune. She became so involved in ministering 
to other people's grief that ultimately she forgot about her 
quest for the magical mustard seed, never realizing that it 
had, in fact, driven the sorrow out of her life. 
 



From: A US woman
To: All
Subject: move on
Date: Fri Oct 19 23:57:42 2001

Message:
Let Bush & the perverts in jail take care of these idiots.  By
letting them get to you, Americans, you are letting them
accomplish their goal.  Move on and enjoy the freedom that they
didn't even begin to destroy.  Let them think as they wish.  The
one true GOD will allow them to burn in hell after being
man-handled in our jail cells.  ENJOY LIFE

From:
To: A US woman
Subject: get to you
Date: Sat Nov 30 13:27:04 2002

Message:
There is a difference between letting them get to you and doing 
what one can do to assure they know they are going to have a 
fight on their hands and in the end they will be paying the 
price for their actions and it won't be pretty. Will they be 
surprised when instead of going to heaven they will burn in 
hell for eternity.

From: om/cf
To: A US woman
Subject: Freedom
Date: Sat Nov 30 12:49:00 2002

Message:
You are right. The Islamakazis on Sept. 11, 2001 did not 
accomplish their goal. Terrorism involves striking the constant 
fear of terrorist acts into the minds of the citizens. As far as 
I can tell, that has not happened. You mention also that 
Americans should move on and "enjoy the freedom that they didn't 
even begin to destroy". Right again! It wasn't Osama bin Lucifer 
clammering for the immediate passage of the badly miss-named 
Patriot Act. WE allowed this to happen - 'we the people' were 
taken advantage of in the wake of 911. You know the Patriot Act -
 thats the one giving carte-blanche warrant free powers to 
federal agencies such as the F.B.I. and the A.T.F. But, with the 
fine track record of these two agencies IM SURE they won't abuse 
their newfound powers! (wink-wink) Also just by typing this 
message, I feel MORE terrorized in knowing the federal goverment 
is free to monitor such sites as this, not like what I say, 
break into my home and confiscate my computor and terrorize my 
family.

Yup, no doubt about it. Im many more times likely to shoot a 
federal agent breaking into my house than a Islamic terrorist.
LET FREEDOM RING!

From:
To: om/cf
Subject: Federal Agents
Date: Sat Nov 30 14:00:41 2002

Message:
Let me know if you still feel this way after terrorist poison 
your water supply or release small pox in your area. This is  
more likely to happen than the FBI breaking into your home and 
terrorizing your family.

From: shotszy
To: om/cf
Date: Sat Nov 30 14:34:35 2002

Message:
You sound like one of those red neck militia guys who thinks 
the government and everyone else is out to get them.

From: om/cf
To: shotszy
Date: Sat Nov 30 15:05:14 2002

Message:
A militia of one! The goverment IS out to get me, I have 
documented PROOF, collected every week for 20 some odd years. 
Paycheck stubs!!

From: om/cf
To: blank
Date: Sat Nov 30 15:16:02 2002

Message:
And just who would allow such terrorists entry to America to 
perpetrate such acts? Thats right, the federal goverment!

From:
To: om/cf
Date: Sat Nov 30 15:23:48 2002

Message:
One of many things great about this country is, we are the 
government. If our elected representatives don't do what we as 
a majority want they are put out to pasture. 

From: om/cf
To: fill in the_________
Subject: A small Rant
Date: Sat Nov 30 15:54:59 2002

Message:
Well now, Santa will be coming down all our chimminys with 
presents galore in a few weeks too! Lets all recite our mantra's 
and not question anything our goverment does - after all, its in 
OUR best interests. In fact, how DARE we question our superiors 
er... I mean, our chosen ones? We don't have that right anymore, 
do we? Maybe technically we do (warm/fuzzy), but you can bet 
your name will be on some nasty little lists. The Patriot Act 
virtuly approves the use of every available survailance 
technique to be used at will by the federal goverment. OK, so 
what you say? Im not a terrorist type! Exactly. Why would this 
infringment of rights even be necessary if the CORRECT steps had 
been taken following 911? The first common sense, albiet non-PC, 
steps would have been to SEAL THE BORDERS and turn away ALL 
Middle Easterners untill such time as we have COMPLETLY 
corrected and overhauled our immigration departments and 
policies. But Nooooooooo! The FIRST step was to infringe on the 
rights of ALL, and the CITIZENS at that! We have Mexican 
illegals pouring across our southern border by the thousands 
daily and we have Arabs entering the U.S. on visas at numbers 
higher than before 911! What the fuck is wrong with this 
picture?!!! And, of course we are told we should offer illegal 
immigrants blanket amnesty and full access to all the welfare 
benifits America affords its citizens - just wave that pesky 
little test and the English classes. Hell YA...let 'em know 
right off the bat that crime PAYS in America!!

From: om/cf
To: Get a grip & Justice
Date: Sat Nov 30 17:12:36 2002

Message:
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/jackson.html

From: Get a grip
To: om/cf
Date: Sat Nov 30 17:56:56 2002

Message:
Damn he must have gone and dropped them all LOL!! 

From:
To: om/cf
Subject: Immigration
Date: Sat Nov 30 18:13:08 2002

Message:
I agree with you. The immigration policies in this country 
needs a overhaul and that's not a secret. I hope you tske the 
opportunity to use the Internet to let your congressman or 
woman know how you feel. Hold them accountable they work for 
you and you have to remind them of that. I know you know all 
that but I thought I'd say it anyway.

From:
To: Whomever
Subject: Justice?
Date: Sat Nov 30 18:56:42 2002

Message:
WATERFORD TOWNSHIP, Mich. (AP) - A federal judge has ruled that 
a school district violated a student's rights to free speech 
and due process when it suspended him for posting "intimidation 
and threats" on the Internet.

The Waterford School District should not have suspended the 
student in August 2001 for contributing to "Satan's Web page," 
U.S. District Judge Patrick Duggan ruled this week.

School officials were concerned by content that included a 
passage labeled "Satan's mission for you this week." It 
read: "Stab someone for no reason then set them on fire throw 
them off of a cliff, watch them suffer and with their last 
breath, just before everything goes black, spit on their face."

The student, who was not identified, was suspended after a 
hearing in which he wasn't allowed to cross-examine witnesses 
and could not be represented by an attorney, said his lawyer, 
Richard Landau.

The student sued the district, seeking damages of up to 
$75,000. He has since graduated from a school in a neighboring 
district.

School representatives and the attorney representing the 
district did not return phone calls seeking comment Wednesday.

The school district was caught between a rock and a hard place. 
If this student would have went out and acted out his fantasies 
everyone would have wanted to know why the school didn't do 
anything. Remember Columbine , but freedom of speech is sacred.


From: om/cf
To:
Date: Sat Nov 30 19:30:23 2002

Message:
School officials were concerned by content that included a 
passage labeled "Satan's mission for you this week." It 
read: "Stab someone for no reason then set them on fire throw 
them off of a cliff, watch them suffer and with their last 
breath, just before everything goes black, spit on their face."

*******

Gee, I don't know....it sounds an awful lot like the games 
Islamaniac children are taught to play by the clerics and 
mullahs. If the kid would've just replaced 'Satan' with 'Allah' 
he would've been off scott free and had more than a piddly-ass 
75G lawsuit to drool over.

From:
To:
Subject: more news from Michigan:
Date: Sat Nov 30 20:27:49 2002

Message:
http://www.shianews.com/hi/announcements/general/index.php

**Islamic Fashion Show for women** to be held in Michigan, USA
The United Muslim Women's Association of USA is having an 
**Islamic Fashion Show for women** on 28th Febuary, 2003 at 7:00 
p.m in Michigan. A similar show was arranged the previous year 
and it was great. The tickets cost $30.00 which includes Dinner 
and a chance to win one of many door prizes. This is a nice 
opportunity for sisters to get out and have a night on the town. 
**It will be a formal affair so dress up ladies!**

If you are a store and want to set up a table we do have limited 
spaces available. Please let us know so we can reserve a table 
for you.

Venue:

Bint Jubail Center Located in Dearborn, Michigan.

For more information about the Fashion Show please contact 
Zaynab at zaynabislam@msn.com 

BWHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA...HAHAHAHA! THE BLUE 
BURKA IS ALL THE RAGE THIS YEAR!!! TAKE IT OFFFF BABY, YEA!.....
WHOA! PUT IT BACK ON....PALEEEEASE!!!! 

From: om/cf
To: Get a grip
Date: Sat Nov 30 22:52:20 2002

Message:
I tried to catch 'em all, really, I did! Man...I really thought 
I could bring Walter back from the dead today. Guess not. Hell, 
in a Nebraska winter, he may not get good n' ripe till spring. 
What an inconsiderate bastard~!

From: om/cf
To: Get a grip
Date: Sat Nov 30 23:20:03 2002

Message:
Now if this doesn't lure Walter back...well its like the 12 
martini joke....piss on it.

http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/

From:
To:
Date: Sun Dec 1 00:48:49 2002

Message:
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From: Get a grip
To: om/cf
Subject: the ghost of Walter
Date: Sun Dec 1 09:10:50 2002

Message:
It was just a haunting, the Ghost of Walter. Board Goat/ U 
know / Who / Los Lobos / or some one or the collective of all of 
them were in fact the Ghost of Walter. Like with Mr Patel, I 
raised the Dead and a little hell along with it. Fact is there 
are only four or so posters on this board. Shit ball/ your 
Daddy/ and so on & on were all the web weenie that owns this 
board. 
  Walter hasn't been on this board for almost a year or so. Just 
U know who aka (all the tird eating perverts) was pretending to 
be Walter. Walter would not have made the argument that you saw, 
in fact he didn't really even like Christians. When I brought 
this up and proved it, is when U know who faked the Walter 
suicide. 
  As far as that site .. LOL!! It takes all kinds. 

From:
To: All
Subject: reminder
Date: Sun Dec 1 11:13:07 2002

Message:
So, then, to every man his chance -- to every man, regardless 
of his birth, his shining golden opportunity -- to every man 
his right to live, to work, to be himself, to become whatever 
his manhood and his vision can combine to make him -- this, 
seeker, is the promise of America.
- -- Thomas Wolfe

From:
To: Had a Grip
Subject: Walter
Date: Sun Dec 1 11:15:14 2002

Message:
You couldn't prove anything.

From: om/cf
To: Facts Finder
Subject: company has arrived
Date: Sun Dec 1 12:19:33 2002

Message:
U.S. carrier, warships arrive in Singapore
Reuters | 12/01/02

SINGAPORE, Dec 1 (Reuters) - U.S. aircraft carrier USS 
Constellation and five warships with about 7,000 sailors arrived 
in Singapore on Sunday on what could be their last shore leave 
before heading to the Middle East and possible war. 

The Constellation battle group is made up of the 41-year old 
carrier and its 72 aircraft, two cruisers, two guided missile 
destroyers and one guided missile frigate. 

*********

"on what could be their last shore leave before heading to the 
Middle East and possible war". UH-OH, party time! Cane their 
rear-ends good if they don't behave!

From: Get a grip
To: Board wanna b
Subject: Walter
Date: Sun Dec 1 12:34:34 2002

Message:
Don't have to, you make it very clear who and what you are. no 
one has to guess. And you didn't prove anything either, except 
what a total ass hole you are. 

From: Get a fucking grip on this
To: Board Goat/ u know who/ Daddy/ Los Lobos/ Etc. Etc. Etc.
Subject: Have a nice time playing with your tirds and u-boats in your bath tub.
Date: Sun Dec 1 12:37:22 2002

Message:
Go ahead and spam the board with your repeated bull shit some 
more. We all know it's you and none of us could give a shit. No 
one likes you or wants to talk to you. You just suck. LOL!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

From: shotszy
To: Had a Grip
Date: Sun Dec 1 13:43:47 2002

Message:
Go soak your head

From: a concerned
To: whom it may concern
Subject: Gods own country
Date: Sun Dec 1 13:53:26 2002

Message:
"Beware of the leader who bangs of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double edged sword. It emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. When the drums of war have reached a fervor pitch, and the blood boils with hate and the mind is closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader, and do it gladly so. How do I know? I know, for this is what I have done."

- Julius Caesar

From: Shotszy
To: Had a Grip
Subject: Spam
Date: Sun Dec 1 13:46:44 2002

Message:
Whats a board wannabe you allready proven you don't need much 
sense to post.

From: yo
To: wtf
Subject: who cares
Date: Sun Dec 1 15:55:09 2002

Message:
aight player

From:
To:
Date: Sun Dec 1 17:06:21 2002

Message:
What a bunch of stupid shit. And what the fuck is a shotzy? Some 
kind of snot nosed pimp.

From:
To:
Date: Sun Dec 1 17:08:49 2002

Message:
Get a grip is the only person on this board worth a shit. 

From:
To:
Date: Sun Dec 1 17:13:36 2002

Message:
and by the way. It is spelled turds, not tirds.

From:
To:
Date: Sun Dec 1 17:46:26 2002

Message:
thank you so much Professor Excrement....you are soooo wise.

From:
To:
Date: Sun Dec 1 19:02:50 2002

Message:
dont piss get a grip off, he might just haul off and do nothing

From: Get a grip
To: Shotzy
Subject: you sound buff
Date: Sun Dec 1 18:59:00 2002

Message:
I have always been a slow dude i mean a slow guy, but it is the 
thought that counts, not how fast you receive it, ok. i should 
have another one later.

From: Snotzy
To: Get a grip
Subject: I just can't handle life
Date: Sun Dec 1 19:53:46 2002

Message:
It's true you see. I am just a lonly ass low life and I thrive 
on keeping my piss ant board here going. It is just a rental 
board, like many and I pay through the nose just to post my 
perverted shit here and piss people off. 

From: Snotzy
To:
Date: Sun Dec 1 20:28:31 2002

Message:
and by the way. It is spelled turds, not tirds.
I should know I eat them 

From: Captain Grammer
To: Snotzy
Subject: Grammaticaly correct trolling
Date: Sun Dec 1 20:43:58 2002

Message:
I Should know I eat them. (Yes you should!)

I should know, I eat them. (Much better, you eat tirds and are 
aware that you eat tirds.)

From: OSAMA
To: THE WORLD
Subject: I WILL RULE!!!
Date: Sun Dec 1 22:35:48 2002

Message:
HI I AM OSAMA BIN LADEN I LIKE TO BEAT OFF TO GAY PORN, AND THROW 
PAPER AIRPLAINS. I THINK I HAVE BALLS YET I DO NOT SHOW MY FACE IN 
THE LIGHT OF DAY. IF I SAW AN AMERICAN I WOULD RUN SCREAMING 
"MOMMY! MOMMY!" YES IT IS TRUE I SUCK MY THUMB IN BED, IT KEEPS ME 
SECCURE. I CAN'T EVEN CLOSE MY EYES BECAUSE OF THE FEAR OF BEING 
FOUND. I AM TOUGH WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING DECISIONS BUT MY LITTLE 
SISTER BEATS ME UP WHEN WE PLAY "WRESTLING". I HIDE UNDER ROCKS 
AND CANT PEE RITE WITHOUT IT BURNING, I INVENTED AIDS, HEY "APES 
ARE FUN"

From:
To:
Date: Sun Dec 1 22:56:49 2002

Message:
you forgot to mention you are a bedwetter

From:
To:
Date: Sun Dec 1 23:04:37 2002

Message:
.....or sandwetter, as the case may be, pussy.....meow.

From: GEORGE W BUSH
To: THE WORLD
Subject: LETS ROLL
Date: Sun Dec 1 23:55:01 2002

Message:
HI I AM GEORGE W BUSH I LIKE TO WATCH GAY PORN AND EAT PRETZELS 
AT THE SAME TIME.SOMETIMES WHEN I SEE A REEL EXCITING GAY SCENE, 
I CHOKE.ON THE PRETZELS HA HA HA. ON SEPT 11 I JUMPED IN AIR 
FORCE ONE AND HAD THEM FLY ME TO A SAFE PLACE WHILE NEW YORKERS 
WERE BEING KILLED. BETTER THEM THAN ME. USAMA BIN LADEN E-MAILS 
ME AND WE LAUGH ABOUT THAT DAY, WHEN I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE 
READING TO CHILDREN IN FLORIDA BUT I HAD THE BOOK UPSIDE DOWN. 
SILLY ME.

From:
To:
Date: Mon Dec 2 08:12:09 2002

Message:
You are a sad lonly shit eater, and no one cares

From: Aussies
To: Afghans
Subject: Peace
Date: Mon Dec 2 08:04:43 2002

Message:
I hope everything works out well for the Afghani people ,good 
luck ,i hope you find peace and happyness for all of the people

From:
To:
Date: Mon Dec 2 08:17:21 2002

Message:
I saw this above post. Unfortunately for the poster, it didn't 
turn out right, so I'll repost it for him/her...

Who knows, perhaps the collapse of Rome/America is to follow? I 
guess the communists are coming again hehe



"Beware of the leader who bangs of war in order to whip the 
citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a 
double edged sword. It emboldens the blood, just as it narrows 
the mind. When the drums of war have reached a fervor pitch, and 
the blood boils with hate and the mind is closed, the leader 
will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. 
Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by 
patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader, 
and do it gladly so. How do I know? I know, for this is what I 
have done."

-Julius Caesar

From: Get a grip
To:
Date: Mon Dec 2 08:25:08 2002

Message:
The bombings in Bali are probably linked to al Qaeda and its war 
against the West. 

The New York Times quotes President Bush on the Bali attack. "We 
need to think about Saddam Hussein using Al Qaeda to do his 
dirty work, to not leave fingerprints behind."

Huh?

Well, the anthrax letters last fall of 2001 were supposed to be 
linked to Saddam - he had finely milled weaponized spores. 
Saddam has always been tight with medical researchers at Fort 
Detrick, so sure. 

And all those Al Qaeda leaders traveling to and from Baghdad. I 
mean, if I were an atheist Marxist dictator trying to keep a tri-
cultural piece of sand together through intimidation and a 
modern police state, yeah, I'd invite all my pan-Arab, Koran-
thumping, Allah-fearing friends from Saudi Arabia. Hell, I'd 
have them set up shop. 

And Iraq is the place for all loose nukes with capable delivery 
systems - not Russia, or Pakistan, or North Korea. Bad nukes are 
apparently only found in Iraq. I'm sorry, I meant to say "nuke" 
as in one, and actually not yet. Maybe next year if friends in 
Russia or Pakistan or North Korea come through with the good 
stuff, next decade otherwise. 

Watching this Saddam-seeking blame missile pointing from the 
collective shoulder of the War Party front line (Sgt. Perle, CWO 
Wolfowitz and Captain Cheney) is kind of like watching a Three 
Stooges short. It is kind of entertaining, and kind of stupid, 
and among the stooges, no particular heroic figures emerge. OK, 
I always liked Curly, but still.

The real stooges did slapstick, and the audience laughed, and 
the actors went home to dinner and a beer. 

The three stooges of the war party aren't quite as funny.

If and when we go into Baghdad to set up the new government (of 
our choosing, stay tuned), rebuild the infrastructure, and put 
the new American petroleum contracts in place, some of the 
stooges will be laughing and smiling, over dinner and a beer. 

And a lot of other stooges will be coming home for good. Some 
may even need fingerprinting. 

Meanwhile, the Al Qaeda channel will be having a 24-hour TV 
marathon fundraiser. I understand the phones are already 
ringing. 


From: Get a grip on your wallet!
To:
Date: Mon Dec 2 08:32:23 2002

Message:
WASHINGTON - The Bush administration's latest effort to protect 
the nation against terrorist attacks is raising concern that 
Americans are now at greater risk of intrusion from their own 
government.

The legislation creating the Department of Homeland Security, 
signed by President Bush on Monday, contains provisions that 
build on law enforcement's ability to peek at e-mail, monitor 
credit card purchases, bank transactions and travel patterns and 
shield its own activities from scrutiny.

Even critics acknowledge that, taken individually, each 
provision is but a tiny step toward transforming the federal 
government into "Big Brother." But they are alarmed when the 
provisions are coupled with a series of recent court rulings 
favorable to the Department of Justice and new administration 
initiatives.

In recent weeks:

  The Pentagon confirmed the existence of the Total Information 
Awareness program, which will monitor passports, visas, work 
permits, airline tickets, rental cars, gun purchases, chemical 
purchases and other activities in search of potential 
terrorists. The program is being run by Adm. John Poindexter, 
President Reagan's national security adviser who was convicted 
in 1990 of five counts of lying to Congress in the Iran-Contra 
affair. (The convictions were overturned on a technicality.) 
Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., said she will try to cut off 
funds for the program until Congress can review it.

  A special federal appeals court ruled that the Justice 
Department has broad powers under the Patriot Act enacted last 
year to use wiretaps, read e-mails and conduct searches of 
suspected terrorists. Attorney General John Ashcroft immediately 
stepped up the use of intelligence.

  The Justice Department challenged a court order instructing it 
to release the names of hundreds of people arrested on 
immigration charges after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. 
Federal attorneys argued that to make such information public 
would provide al-Qaida a "road map" to the government's 
antiterrorism efforts.

  The San Francisco-based U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth 
Circuit rejected a challenge to the detention of about 600 war 
prisoners in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, ruling that a group of clergy 
and professors have no legal standing to intervene.

"We continue to chip away at these protections, and we continue 
to move things off the books in a way that are away from 
scrutiny," said Jim Demspsey of the Center for Democracy & 
Technology in Washington, D.C.

The recent developments follow a vast expansion of the Justice 
Department's surveillance powers under the antiterrorism bill 
passed last year, an easing of restrictions on FBI agents to 
infiltrate churches, mosques and political groups where 
terrorist activity is suspected, and the secretive detention of 
an estimated 1,200 foreigners with suspected links to terrorism.

The United States has a long history of restricting civil 
liberties during times of war, from President Abraham Lincoln's 
suspension of the writ of habeas corpus to President Franklin 
Roosevelt's internment of more than 100,000 Japanese Americans.

Most Americans appear to have accepted the activities as a 
reasonable precaution at a time of high risk, polls show, with 
the notable exception of Arab Americans.

However, unlike government crackdowns during the Civil War or 
World War II, the fight against terror is open-ended, prompting 
some concern that the government's new authorities will last 
indefinitely, and ultimately affect a wider circle of Americans.

And because so much of today's law enforcement activity is 
taking place in secret, civil libertarians warn that there are 
no judicial or congressional checks to make sure the power is 
not abused.

"There is a tremendous potential for abuse," said Elliot 
Mincberg, legal director for People for the American Way, a 
liberal interest group that monitors the administration's 
judicial activity.

Justice Department officials say the real threat to freedom is 
posed by the terrorists.

"At this time and place, the threat to liberty is the disorder 
that terrorists seek to bring about in our government," 
Assistant Attorney General Viet Dinh said this year. "Ask 
yourself this: When you take your child to a ballgame, are you 
more afraid of government agents watching your child, or 
terrorists attacking the ballpark?" said Dinh, who fled Vietnam 
as a 10-year-old and was the chief author of the Patriot Act.

From: Get a grip
To:
Date: Mon Dec 2 08:35:28 2002

Message:
WASHINGTON -- "They" already know about your athlete's foot, 
that naughty movie you rented and the weight you lied about on 
your driver's license. 

Right now, "they" are usually businesses that want to sell you 
something. But soon, "they" could be the U.S. government's Total 
Information Awareness system, and that has privacy advocates 
worried. 

Privacy rights watchdogs are also uneasy about the man who has 
articulated the outlines of this system: retired Adm. John 
Poindexter, the Reagan-era national security adviser who was 
convicted -- the conviction was later set aside -- of deceiving 
Congress in the Iran-Contra affair. 

"They are drowning in information now, they're not able to do 
good data analysis," said Jerry Berman, executive director of 
the Center for Democracy and Technology. "Who are the new 
analysts they have in mind? Do they really mean Adm. Poindexter? 
He's not a man who gets much of my confidence." 

Total Information Awareness, or TIA, is meant to be part of the 
U.S. war on terror. While it has yet to be put into practice, 
Poindexter described it in August as a way to track potential 
terrorists by the cyber-signatures they leave behind when they 
make electronic transactions. 

To do this, he said, TIA will need sophisticated ways to "mine" 
information already collected in disparate databases, Poindexter 
said. 

A graphic of how TIA will "detect, classify, identify, 
understand and pre-empt" terrorists is available at 
http://www.darpa.mil/iao/TIASystems.htm. 

The problem for groups that safeguard rights to privacy lies in 
the fact that ordinary people who have no ties to terror may 
leave some of the same signatures and wind up on the same list 
of suspects. 

Until now, government and commercial sleuths have gone after 
personal electronic data on a case-by-case basis, Berman said in 
a telephone interview. 

Law enforcement, Social Security and businesses, to name three 
examples, all collect different information in pursuit of those 
suspected of wrongdoing, Berman said. 

"What is different now is that there is a generalized interest 
in all of this information, regardless of whether or not the 
subject has engaged in a crime," Berman said. 

There is plenty of information available, for those who know 
where to look. 



Credit card purchases, stops at the automatic teller machine and 
Internet surfing are three obvious ways to track personal 
information, but these are hardly the only paths companies -- or 
the TIA analysts -- could take to find out about potential 
terrorists, or almost anyone else. 

The Electronic Privacy Information Center, known as EPIC, said 
supermarket savings cards, telephone directories, surveys, 
sweepstakes entries, financial and property records, product 
warranty cards and magazine subscriptions can all be used to 
compile consumer profiles useful in marketing. 

These seemingly unrelated documents can give a detailed picture 
that can include not just shopping preferences and income, 
but "lifestyle preferences" such as what kind of pet a person 
owns, what religious groups get the person's charity and whether 
they have maladies ranging from foot fungus to cancer. 

With all this information available in different databases, 
Poindexter said, "The relevant information extracted from this 
data must be made available in large-scale repositories with 
enhanced semantic content for easy analysis to accomplish this 
task. The transactional data will supplement our more 
conventional intelligence collection." 

"There has obviously been a growing problem within the private 
sector over collection of information for targeted marketing," 
said David Sobel, general counsel at EPIC. "What's different now 
is the government is putting major resources into getting access 
to privately collected data." 

This could mean the difference between worrying about getting 
more junk mail and worrying about getting "caught up in some 
sort of government investigation if (the) pattern of activities 
meets some profile of suspicious behavior," Sobel said by 
telephone. 

Even for those who manage to conduct an all-cash life, there are 
risks, Sobel said: it is nearly impossible to rent a car or buy 
an airline ticket with cash in the United States and avoid 
suspicion. 

The American Civil Liberties Union has mounted a campaign on its 
Web site -- http://aclu.org -- to "Stop Computer Snooping" 
through the TIA, calling it an "Orwellian program" that goes too 
far. 

"We must not sacrifice our freedom and liberty in order to 
prosecute the 'War on Terrorism,'" ACLU said on its site. 



From: Get a grip
To:
Date: Mon Dec 2 08:41:48 2002

Message:
Country music's most popular song this summer is a defiantly 
nationalistic tune by Toby Keith, in which he warns potential 
adversaries that if they mess with us, "we'll put a boot in your 
ass, it's the American way." Last week the Chinese government 
showed us its way. Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage 
had brought a conciliatory gesture from the Bush administration, 
agreeing to recognize a separatist group in China's Xinjiang 
province as a terrorist entity. This diplomatic contortion was 
so appeasing that the Economist magazine labeled its 
logic "astonishing." And yet the day after Armitage left, the 
Chinese government sent its own political signal by "test-
firing" a DF-4 missile, which has a range of more than 4,000 
miles and was designed to attack U.S. military bases on Guam.

The implied disrespect of this incident did not occur in a 
vacuum, either militarily or diplomatically. As our country 
remains obsessed with Saddam Hussein, other nations have begun 
positioning themselves for an American war with Iraq and, most 
important, for its aftermath. China, which has pursued a 
strategic axis with key Islamic nations for nearly 20 years, 
received the Iraqi foreign minister just after Armitage's 
departure, condemning in advance an American attack on that 
country. Russia has been assiduously courting -- both 
diplomatically and economically -- all three nations identified 
by President Bush as the "axis of evil." Iran -- the number one 
state sponsor of international terrorism, according to our own 
State Department -- has conducted at least four flight tests of 
the nuclear-capable Shahab-3 missile, whose range of 800 miles 
is enough to hit U.S. forces in the Persian Gulf, Turkey and 
Central Asia.

Meanwhile, American military leaders have been trying to bring a 
wider focus to the band of neoconservatives that began beating 
the war drums on Iraq before the dust had even settled on the 
World Trade Center. Despite the efforts of the neocons to shut 
them up or to dismiss them as unqualified to deal in policy 
issues, these leaders, both active-duty and retired, have been 
nearly unanimous in their concerns. Is there an absolutely vital 
national interest that should lead us from containment to 
unilateral war and a long-term occupation of Iraq? And would 
such a war and its aftermath actually increase our ability to 
win the war against international terrorism? On this second 
point, Marine Gen. Peter Pace, the Joint Chiefs vice chairman, 
mentioned in a news conference last week that the scope for 
potential anti-terrorist action included -- at a minimum -- 
Iran, Iraq, Yemen, Somalia, Sudan, Lebanon, Syria, Libya, 
Georgia, Colombia, Malaysia, Indonesia, the Philippines and 
North Korea.

America's best military leaders know that they are accountable 
to history not only for how they fight wars, but also for how 
they prevent them. The greatest military victory of our time -- 
bringing an expansionist Soviet Union in from the cold while 
averting a nuclear holocaust -- was accomplished not by an 
invasion but through decades of intense maneuvering and 
continuous operations. With respect to the situation in Iraq, 
they are conscious of two realities that seem to have been lost 
in the narrow debate about Saddam Hussein himself. The first 
reality is that wars often have unintended consequences -- ask 
the Germans, who in World War I were convinced that they would 
defeat the French in exactly 42 days. The second is that a long-
term occupation of Iraq would beyond doubt require an adjustment 
of force levels elsewhere, and could eventually diminish 
American influence in other parts of the world.

Other than the flippant criticisms of our "failure" to take 
Baghdad during the Persian Gulf War, one sees little discussion 
of an occupation of Iraq, but it is the key element of the 
current debate. The issue before us is not simply whether the 
United States should end the regime of Saddam Hussein, but 
whether we as a nation are prepared to physically occupy 
territory in the Middle East for the next 30 to 50 years. Those 
who are pushing for a unilateral war in Iraq know full well that 
there is no exit strategy if we invade and stay. This reality 
was the genesis of a rift that goes back to the Gulf War itself, 
when neoconservatives were vocal in their calls for "a 
MacArthurian regency in Baghdad." Their expectation is that the 
United States would not only change Iraq's regime but also 
remain as a long-term occupation force in an attempt to 
reconstruct Iraqi society itself.

The connotations of "a MacArthurian regency in Baghdad" show how 
inapt the comparison is. Our occupation forces never set foot 
inside Japan until the emperor had formally surrendered and 
prepared Japanese citizens for our arrival. Nor did MacArthur 
destroy the Japanese government when he took over as proconsul 
after World War II. Instead, he was careful to work his changes 
through it, and took pains to preserve the integrity of Japan's 
imperial family. Nor is Japanese culture in any way similar to 
Iraq's. The Japanese are a homogeneous people who place a high 
premium on respect, and they fully cooperated with MacArthur's 
forces after having been ordered to do so by the emperor. The 
Iraqis are a multiethnic people filled with competing factions 
who in many cases would view a U.S. occupation as infidels 
invading the cradle of Islam. Indeed, this very bitterness 
provided Osama bin Laden the grist for his recruitment efforts 
in Saudi Arabia when the United States kept bases on Saudi soil 
after the Gulf War.

In Japan, American occupation forces quickly became 50,000 
friends. In Iraq, they would quickly become 50,000 terrorist 
targets. 

Nations such as China can only view the prospect of an American 
military consumed for the next generation by the turmoil of the 
Middle East as a glorious windfall. Indeed, if one gives the 
Chinese credit for having a long-term strategy -- and those who 
love to quote Sun Tzu might consider his nationality -- it lends 
credence to their insistent cultivation of the Muslim world. One 
should not take lightly the fact that China previously supported 
Libya, that Pakistan developed its nuclear capability with 
China's unrelenting assistance and that the Chinese sponsored a 
coup attempt in Indonesia in 1965. An "American war" with the 
Muslims, occupying the very seat of their civilization, would 
allow the Chinese to isolate the United States diplomatically as 
they furthered their own ambitions in South and Southeast Asia.

These concerns, and others like them, are the reasons that many 
with long experience in U.S. national security issues remain 
unconvinced by the arguments for a unilateral invasion of Iraq. 
Unilateral wars designed to bring about regime change and a long-
term occupation should be undertaken only when a nation's 
existence is clearly at stake. It is true that Saddam Hussein 
might try to assist international terrorist organizations in 
their desire to attack America. It is also true that if we 
invade and occupy Iraq without broad-based international 
support, others in the Muslim world might be encouraged to 
intensify the same sort of efforts. And it is crucial that our 
national leaders consider the impact of this proposed action on 
our long-term ability to deter aggression elsewhere.


From: Shotszy
To: Had a Grip
Date: Mon Dec 2 09:26:20 2002

Message:
I'm impressed you know hot to use cut and paste.

From: Get a grip
To: Shotzy
Subject: "hot" cut & paste
Date: Mon Dec 2 09:43:36 2002

Message:
Yes I use it 'hot' just like you say. But it just all adds up, 
Bush would be putting our ass out in a bad way if he continues 
his push for a war in Iraq. Those who lobby him to do so don't 
give a shit about anyone. And we are getting the tird end of the 
stick. 
   Fact is, as long as the downtrodden and poor of the earth are 
ignored, terrorism will become a way of life. No matter what the 
religion, reason or politics. 
   All I see from this Bush admin. is "take care of our own" and 
fuck everyone else, they are Evil. A very narrow mindset and one 
that does nothing to address the problem. 
   I just figured I would put the "proof" before the "opinion" 
                this time.

From: Get a grip
To: Sick religious fucks
Subject: This is just one of around 160 priests of the Catholic Chuch accused of sexual abuse. He abused around 130 children. You do the math.
Date: Mon Dec 2 13:56:45 2002

Message:
Third New York Diocese to Turn Over Files 
 
 
   
 
   
 
 
Wednesday, April 10, 2002
 
NEW YORK    In a major policy shift, the Diocese of Brooklyn 
announced Wednesday that it will give prosecutors the names of 
Roman Catholic priests accused of sexual abuse over the past 20 
years. 

  
 
 
 
Bishop Thomas Daily said district attorneys in the New York 
boroughs of Queens and Brooklyn will receive some names as early 
as Friday and that the diocese is still reviewing files. 

"As in the past, we will cooperate with them in any 
investigations they may wish to pursue," he said. 

The diocese serves 1.6 million Catholics in Queens and Brooklyn. 
The other dioceses in the area   the Archdiocese of New York, 
which serves 2.4 million Catholics in New York City and its 
northern suburbs, and the Diocese of Rockville Center, which 
includes 1.5 million Catholics on Long Island   have already 
handed over files on sex abuse allegations. 

Brooklyn District Attorney Charles Hynes said he was pleased 
with Daily's decision. As recently as March 22, the bishop had 
said he did not plan to release the information. 

Daily emerged as a key figure in the case of defrocked priest 
John J. Geoghan, who has been accused of molesting more than 130 
children in the Boston archdiocese. The church crisis emerged in 
Boston in January with the disclosure that Geoghan had been 
moved from parish to parish after being accused of sexual abuse. 

Daily has acknowledged he never informed law enforcement 
authorities about Geoghan, and when he transferred him to 
another parish he did not recall telling the parish's pastor 
about the complaints against Geoghan. 
 
 
 

From: Important
To: Something Was Here!!
Subject: Read This
Date: Mon Dec 2 13:45:25 2002

Message:
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 13:35:36 -0500

Sender: DOD NEWS LIST <DODNEWS-L@DTIC.MIL>
From: dlnews_sender@DTIC.MIL
Subject: NORAD Investigates Reports of Contrail
To: DODNEWS-L@DTIC.MIL
Precedence: list



NEWS RELEASE from the United States Department of Defense

No. 605-02
(703)697-5131(media)
IMMEDIATE RELEASE
   November 28, 2002
(703)428-0711(public/industry)

NORAD INVESTIGATES REPORTS OF CONTRAIL

Yesterday at approximately 4 p.m. (EST) North American Aerospace
Defense Command received unverified reports of what appeared to
be a contrail of unknown origin in the vicinity of the Turks and
Caicos Islands in the Caribbean.  Initially, it was reported to
be heading northwestward toward the United States.  Commercial
airline pilots later reported the contrail over Florida and
later over Indiana.  Thereafter, no other sightings were
reported.

NORAD scrambled fighter aircraft from several bases in an
attempt to intercept and identify the source of the contrail. No
visual or confirmed radar contact was made with the source of
the contrail. NORAD continues to investigate these reports.
NORAD is coordinating with the FAA to determine any further
information on the nature of these reports.





From:
To:
Date: Mon Dec 2 14:15:06 2002

Message:
Everyone seems to be wondering why Muslim terrorists 
are so quick to commit suicide. Let's see now . .
No beer
No booze
No bars
No television
No cheerleaders
No baseball
No football
No basketball
No hockey
No golf
No tailgate parties
No hooters
No pork BBQ
No hot dogs
No burgers
No lobster, shellfish, or even frozen fish sticks
Rags for clothes and towels for hats
Constant wailing from the guy next door 
because he's sick and there are no doctors
Constant wailing from the guy in the tower
No chocolate chip cookies
No Christmas
You can't shave
Your wife can't shave
You can't shower to wash off the smell of donkey 
cooked over burning camel dung
The women have to wear baggy dresses and veils at all times
Your bride is picked by someone else
She ! smells just like your donkey
But your donkey has a better disposition
Then they tell you that when you die it all gets better!

No mystery here





From: Shotszy
To: Had a Grip
Date: Mon Dec 2 14:26:33 2002

Message:
Don't give me that "poor of the earth" B.S if they would get a 
dose of testoterone and do something about their condition they 
would be better off. If your under a dictator fight back ,if 
you don't have weapons use sticks or your own bare hands, IF 
you need shelter, build it. If you need food grow or hunt for 
it and if you can't do all of these things ask the United 
States for help they'll give it to you but don't come back and 
bite the hand that feeds you and don't blame other countries 
for your miserable condition blame yourself.

From:
To: Get a Grip
Subject: Catholic Church
Date: Mon Dec 2 14:45:57 2002

Message:
I think if you check other careers like Doctors, Lawyers, 
Bricklayers,Carpenters ,Civil service workers and of course 
Newsmen you will find approximately the same percentage of 
child molesters.

From: Get a grip
To: Brain dead fuck
Subject: Thick as a fucking brick!
Date: Mon Dec 2 14:58:30 2002

Message:
No you won't, see. It is in the parish that children are sent to 
learn. Brick layers don't teach children. Nor do they have 130 
children EACH to molest. What a stupid fuck thing to say! Nor 
would you find a sililar percentage, Most Catholic preists are 
fucking GAY! I would like you to walk up to a brick layer and 
call him gay LOL!!!!!!!!! 
SHOTZY THE HAS BEEN POSTER STRIKES AGAIN HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

From: Get a grip
To: Shotzy the has been poster
Date: Mon Dec 2 15:04:45 2002

Message:
Oh yes, just tell them to get their ass to work, you should be 
president!! HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>What a FUCKING MORON!!!!!<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<,
Another BOARD GOAT TRUTH!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

From: Get a grip
To: Snotzy
Subject: Face it fucker
Date: Mon Dec 2 15:09:37 2002

Message:
You just LOST HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We all know it is YOU that spams YOUR own board! It was YOU that 
faked Walter and his suicide!! NO ONE wants to post here any 
more, not even one person! It's just you and me fucker! Eat Shit 
and Die!!!!!!!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>YOU SUCK!!!!!!!!!<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
And we all know it! It has been YOU fucking with every poster 
here. I exposed YOU for the low life sack of wasted sperm you 
are! FUCK YOU!

From: Shotszy
To: Had a Grip
Date: Mon Dec 2 15:13:56 2002

Message:
I was wrong I had you figured for a 40 IQ but your really a 20 
I was giving you too much credit.

From:
To:
Date: Mon Dec 2 15:22:16 2002

Message:
No one gives a SHIT what you think, ASS HOLE

From:
To: all the bord
Date: Mon Dec 2 17:23:18 2002

Message:
what we all know is that get a grip has contributed enormously 
to the destruction of this bord.

From:
To:
Date: Mon Dec 2 17:28:45 2002

Message:
thank you, get a grip/merlyn for helping to destroy a place we 
had to talk over September 11 and current problems.
you won! no one wants to post here anymore. we all hope your 
happy now.

From:
To: Shotszy
Subject: get a grip
Date: Mon Dec 2 17:33:58 2002

Message:
you cannot reason with him. his one and only idea is the 
destruction of this bord. anyone who looks can see this and 
om/cf Justice have looked the other way while he has been at it 
now you have what you wanted had a grip      a joke bord.

From:
To: what ever your fake name is today, snotzy
Date: Mon Dec 2 17:56:17 2002

Message:
Oh stuff your self pity up your ASS you shit eating faggot. You 
and your sick fucking make believe friend both. Get a grip 
showed you for the ASS HOLE you are. and everyone knows it!
             >>>>>>>>FUCK YOU!<<<<<<<<
and the dead mother who made you. YOU LOOSE! and YOU SUCK AT IT!
You fucked with everyone on this board and killed it yourself!
          YOU HAVE ONLY YOURSELF TO BLAME
                   >>>EAT SHIT!<<<<<<

From:
To:
Subject: IT IS EASY TO SEE WHAT GET A GRIPS OBJECTIVES HAVE BEEN ALL ALONG>>>>>>>>>>>>HIS CONSTANT TALK OF EXPOSING PEOPLE>>>>HE THINKS HES GERALDO RIVERA >>>>>>HIS HAPPINESS WITH BEING THE ONLY ONE LEFT TO POST HERE>>>>>IT ALL ADDS UP>>>>>>HE IS EXPOSING HIMSELF >>>>>>>>>>
Date: Mon Dec 2 17:51:59 2002

Message:
From: Get a grip 
To: Snotzy 
Subject: Face it fucker 
Date: Mon Dec 2 15:09:37 2002 
Message:
You just LOST HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We all know it is YOU that spams YOUR own board! It was YOU that 
faked Walter and his suicide!! NO ONE wants to post here any 
more, not even one person! It's just you and me fucker! Eat Shit 
and Die!!!!!!!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>YOU SUCK!!!!!!!!!<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
And we all know it! It has been YOU fucking with every poster 
here. I exposed YOU for the low life sack of wasted sperm you 
are! FUCK YOU!

From:
To:
Date: Mon Dec 2 18:09:32 2002

Message:
get a grip sucks donkey dick

From:
To:
Subject: LOOK AT HIS REFERENCES TO SHIT>>FAGGOT>>SPERM>>AND HIS CONSTANT TALK OF DEAD MOTHERS>>>>>RING A BELL OM/CF?>>>>>>>>>>>>NOTICE WHEN HE STAYS AWAY FOR A FEW DAYS THE PEOPLE WHO POST ABOUT SHIT DISAPPEAR ALSO?>>>>>>>>>>>>>IF YOU PEOPLE>>>>>>>WALTER,OM/CF,JUSTICE,NORTH CAROLINA GAL,U.K.CITIZEN>>>>>>>>>>>APPROVE OF THIS>>>>THEN KISS YOUR BORD GOODBYE
Date: Mon Dec 2 18:10:45 2002

Message:
LOOK AT HOW HE INCLUDES EVERYONE WHEN HE TRYS TO BLAST 
SOMEONE>>>>ALLWAYS WE ALL KNOW IT>>>>>>NO ONE LIKES 
YOU>>>>>>NONE OF US>>>>>>NEVER HIM ALONE

From:
To:
Date: Mon Dec 2 18:25:15 2002

Message:
No one cares

From:
To:
Subject: ALSO NOTICE IS COVSTSNT REFERENCE TO SHIT EATING AND BUTTFUCKING>>>>>>>>>>
Date: Mon Dec 2 18:20:36 2002

Message:
THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO MENTIONED BOTH OF THESE SUBJECTS IN THE SAME 
POST WERE HIM>>>>>>>>>AND THE TROUBLEMAKERS
HOW CAN IT GET ANY CLEARER TO YOU PEOPLE?
DO THE REST OF YOU CONVERSE ON THESE SUBJECTS?
ONLY HIM?
EXPOSED.

From:
To: ? who knows who? URA Cunt
Date: Mon Dec 2 18:31:43 2002

Message:
This all coming from the sick fuck who likes putting cats in his 
microwave and using Duct tape to fuck his chickens. Sorry ass 
hole we all know. 

From:
To:
Subject: NOTICE WHEN HES BEEN EXPOSED HE ALLWAYS SAYS>>>>NO ONE CARES>>>>>>OR>>I DONT GIVE A FUCK?>>>>>>>
Date: Mon Dec 2 18:30:43 2002

Message:
EXPOSED.

From:
To:
Subject: SEE HOW HE TRYS TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT WHEN HES BEEN CAUGHT?SEE THE WE REFERENCE AGAIN?
Date: Mon Dec 2 18:35:52 2002

Message:
ISNT IT TIME FOR YOU TO SAY THAT YOU DONT GIVE A FUCK, HAD A 
GRIP?

From:
To: Shotsky
Subject: Get a Grip
Date: Mon Dec 2 18:27:30 2002

Message:
Its a waste of time don't even talk to Get a Grip maybe he'll 
dry up and blow away.

From:
To:
Date: Mon Dec 2 18:37:58 2002

Message:
OR HOW ONLY ONE REGULAR POSTER IS ON THIS BOARD ALL DAY YET 
CLAIMS TO RUN A SUCCESFULL BUSINESS AS HE ARGUES AMONGST 
HIMSELVES>>>>>?

From:
To:
Subject: HE WAITS ALL DAY FOR HIS PAINT TO DRY
Date: Mon Dec 2 18:44:19 2002

Message:
HES ALWAYS IN BETWEEN JOBS>>>>EVER NOTICE THAT? BUT HELL STAY ON 
HERE ALL DAY LONG. IN BETWEEN JOBS OF COURSE.

From:
To:
Subject: WITH A WIFE TOO>>>>>>WHO CALMLY WAITS UP FOR HIM AT THREE IN THE MORNING WHEN HES BUSY TELLING PEOPLE TO FUCK THEIR DEAD MOTHERS
Date: Mon Dec 2 18:47:04 2002

Message:
SOUNDS REAL.
EXPOSED.

From:
To:
Date: Mon Dec 2 18:49:29 2002

Message:
>>>>>>VERY INTERESTING<<<<<<

From:
To:
Subject: >>>>>>>YES<<<<<<<<<<
Date: Mon Dec 2 18:56:48 2002

Message:
>>>>>>>VERY<<<<<<<<<<<

From:
To:
Date: Mon Dec 2 19:41:30 2002

Message:
>>>>MERWIN>>>>>YU GOT SOME SPLAININ TO DO<<<<<<<

From: Get a grip
To: All
Date: Mon Dec 2 21:07:32 2002

Message:
i just have so much on my mind, thought after thought after 
thought, i can barely keep up. I have lots of info, anyone 
interested? 

From: Merlyn
To: my friends
Date: Mon Dec 2 21:14:30 2002

Message:
i worship the monkey. why? because, they are hairy and smart. 
bow to all monkey's, for they are holy.  /|\

From: US
To: TERRORISTS!
Subject: I LOVE AMERICA
Date: Sun Sep 30 17:26:34 2001

Message:
FUCK ALL TERRORISTS!!! I LOVE FREE SPEECH!!! I LOVE AMERICA!! 
YOU ASSHOLES ARE GOING TO PAY!!

From: Jackie
To: Bitch Mouth Maria
Subject: Bitch
Date: Mon Dec 2 21:03:46 2002

Message:
To the cyber slut Marie stop thinking between your legs and use 
your head, I am repeating from the holy bible. Oh excuse me 
heathens don t read the bible.  Pick it up and read it. The word 
bitch look at your self in the mirror, put your head in between 
your legs and kiss your on rotten stinking ass. Don't start 
something you can't finish. Its always the stupid whores who 
runs off at the mouth. I know you have not  pass the 5th grade. 
All of you racist bastard comes from behind your mask.
this is not about the bombing of our country. Its about cowards 
who hide behind the computor. There is a law against this kind 
of behavior believe me I will be the first one to bring the 
authorities here. It's not about afghan goverment, its about 
poor trash who gets on the computor and try to demean other 
races and religions. In laymen terms fuck you bitch and all your 
followers. The real terrorist are right here in this room. Its 
call psycological murder.

From:
To: JACKIE
Subject: DEATH TO ALL THE MUSLIMS>>>>>>STARTING WITH YOU>>>>>AND THE OPEN MOUTH WHORE WHO SHAT YOU OUT
Date: Mon Dec 2 21:42:29 2002

Message:
PSYCOLOGICAL MURDER. KILL ALL THE MUSLIMS. KILL THEM. SPARE NO 
ONE. KILL THEM ALL.~~~~~~~~THE KORAN IS THE HANDBOOK OF CHILD 
MOLESTERS. I TURN THE PAGES WITH THE SAME HAND I WIPE MY ASS 
WITH.

From: jackie
To: om/cf
Subject: Klan Man
Date: Mon Dec 2 21:36:54 2002

Message:
You are the garbage of the Universe, have you fought any wars, 
have you given to your country? All you do is run your stupid as 
s mouth. This is not your country alone. You are the antidote to 
a mass politcal stupidiy .  The wide spread of delusion 
complying with rivers of vomit. swinging to a edge sword moronic 
ass holes. I know this language is above your heads. I am a 
black women and I don't take it kindly that you racist bastards 
talking about the muslium religion, Because all musliums do not 
live in alghanastan.  Many black men who are  Muslims had 
nothing to do with the bombing of this country,  So back the 
fuck off of black people, maybe if I tell them about this room, 
you will have a different story, I cry no victim song. Slavery 
is over. So you and your stupid ass can scrath your ass and get 
glad, don't use this room to star a race war.

From: om/cf
To: Jackie
Date: Mon Dec 2 21:40:02 2002

Message:
"To the cyber slut Marie stop thinking between your legs and use 
your head, I am repeating from the holy bible".

THATS in the bible? Im tearing the house apart looking for a 
copy right now!! WOW!!

"Pick it up and read it. The word bitch look at your self in the 
mirror, put your head in between your legs and kiss your on 
rotten stinking ass".

WELL NOW, really! I see how you stand upon such high moral 
ground in the rarefied air. I know, your an ARTIST, not a 
fucking ROCKET SCIENTIST! Potty mouth!
 

From: om/cf
To: Sister Jackie
Date: Mon Dec 2 22:04:08 2002

Message:
SLOWLY, PULL THE SYRINGE FROM YOUR ARM...now call the paramedics 
because you definatly done overdosed sister child!

Why are you calling me a racist? Because I posted a couple links 
to some humorous sites that involved black people? Christ...you 
go back in the archives and see if you find a pattern in 
that....then bring it up. I've posted one hell of a lot more 
links poking fun at whites. Sorry to say sister, I know to many 
black people to feel threatened by them. I grew up in a multi-
racial neighborhood and live in one today. Isn't it a little 
presumptuous of you to assume Im white? AND, since Im white and 
speak my mind....I MUST be affiliated with the KKK?
Whose the racist sister?

From: om/cf
To:
Date: Mon Dec 2 22:37:42 2002

Message:
"You are the antidote to a mass politcal stupidiy".

Well, I'd like to think so but...... 

From: Gerbil Master
To: All
Subject: WOW !!!!!!
Date: Mon Dec 2 23:00:13 2002

Message:
The board is long gone....what a shame.......................

From:
To:
Date: Mon Dec 2 23:37:33 2002

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From: om/cf
To: ?
Date: Mon Dec 2 23:01:50 2002

Message:
ALSO?>>>>>>>>>>>>>IF YOU PEOPLE>>>>>>>WALTER,OM/CF,JUSTICE,NORTH 
CAROLINA GAL,U.K.CITIZEN>>>>>>>>>>>APPROVE OF THIS>>>>THEN KISS 
YOUR BORD GOODBYE 

To tell the truth, this board is not a big part of my life and I 
would never take it so seriously. I've had fun here, bitched, 
moaned and whinned here and consider some posters with the 
utmost respect. The 'soap opera' aspect is not my trip. Im 
currently spending some free time trying to get into the 
Guardian Unlimited Talk board just to raise some HELL!! For some 
reason they're dragging their feet on e-mailing my password? 
Certain Freepers (TLBSHOW) have knocked the libs back on their 
heels a bit and they're a little, BWAAAH!, gun-shy!

Whoever owns and/or runs this board:

All things considered, I'd say job well done. A truely FREE 
site, no pop-up ads, no donation drives or arm twisting. No 
monitors ready to pull the first post they deem unappropriate. A 
real free-for-all, Bwaaaaah, the Nuge!!

Anyway, Im half in the bag with the intentions of crawling all 
the way in. Goodnight All.

Jackie: Ya got a hug n' a kiss goodnight for me?

From:
To: JACKIE THE NIGGER
Subject: MUSLIM PIG
Date: Mon Dec 2 23:43:44 2002

Message:
SINCE YOU COME TO THE BORD CALLING PEOPLE NAMES I WILL NOW DO 
THE SAME TO YOU. ENJOY.

From: om/cf
To:
Date: Tue Dec 3 00:03:17 2002

Message:
Oh sure, make it look like I posted it. All I wanted was a 
goodnight smooch, and maybe a little touching and general 
groping leading to....whatever.....zzzzzzzz............

Men are in charge of women, because Allah has preferred men over 
women.As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-
conduct, admonish them; banish them to their couches and beat 
them. 
-Holy Quran (4:34) 

If a man and a woman are alone in one place, the third person 
present is the devil. 
-The Prophet Muhammad 

These are days of moral decline and spiritual malaise for the 
West, what with compulsory lesbianism among grade-school girls, 
not to mention lotsa slobbering, sourpussed, clit-stapled, hairy-
pitted female bulldoggies who never resolved their daddy issues 
hanging around all the places where I like to buy coffee. 

There are no dykes in Afghanistan, and that s reason enough to 
move there. 

Chicks are ruining the West. Over here in this neck of the 
world, a sloppy Goddess Goulash stinks up the skies-while the 
Middle East, with its well-endowed macho God, starts to smell 
like paradise. 

Wherefore art thou going, O wayward Western woman? 

The Western woman has become defiled. 

The Western woman has lost her soul amid the godless quest for 
mammon. 

The Western woman has gotten all uppity and stuff, always 
ordering the most expensive desserts when you take her out to 
dinner. 

The Western woman does not realize that there is no higher 
satisfaction for a woman than to please Allah. 

Here in the land of the Great Satan, we extol feminine character 
traits, and yet we still expect to win a war against our 
unflinchingly butch enemy. 

The man who falls prey to feminine wiles is no man at all. Those 
Muslims know that once you surrender your mighty natural-born 
male-warrior spirit to female charms, you become a pathetic, 
undignified cuckold. You become an unmanly lad. What s worse, 
you incur the wrath of Allah, who s really hard to deal with 
when he s pissed. 

Women have desires that have to be fully suppressed lest they 
lure the righteous believer into the pits of hell. Whorish 
immorality is the natural female state. Observe how the four-
year-old girl rubs her crotch up against the coffee table while 
you have guests over, and you ll agree with my premise here. 
Once a woman realizes she is capable of sexual pleasure, she 
becomes vexatious and troublesome to the righteous man. You get 
her started, and a few weeks later she s gobblin  chubby 
strangers  cocks in piss-encrusted truck-stop bathrooms, and 
that s not cool. That s not cool at all. 

Unlike the vaguely faggy virgin Jesus, the Prophet Muhammad was 
a stud-muffin. Hung like Allah, too, I ll bet. Here was a 
religious leader with a robust enjoyment of carnal delights. He 
liked  em young and tight. He liked  em old and loose. He 
liked  em, period. But he didn t like  em if they had their 
period,  coz that s disgusting. While the homo Christ chose to 
laze around with twelve other males, Muhammad plowed through at 
least a dozen wives, plus scads of hot, horny slave chicks. He 
married a six-year-old girl when he was 51. He died at 62 on the 
lap of a 17-year-old bride. A true pimp daddy, Muhammad was. The 
Original Gangsta. 

And his followers were nearly as burly as the Prophet himself. 
His cousin Ali wisely stated that "The entire woman is evil. 
Men, never ever obey your women. They complain of being 
oppressed when in fact it is they who oppress." Omar, Islam s 
second caliph, counseled Muslim guys to "Adopt positions 
opposite those of women. There is great merit in such 
opposition." Indeed, these were men of great wisdom and 
holiness. Righteous bro s. Ain t no fun if the homies can t have 
none! 

And I want some. I want some sultry Saudi sirens. Some cock-
hungry Kuwaiti cuties. A classy Pakistani lassie with a sassy 
chassis. 

The Muslim girl oozes mystery. She teases, tempts, and 
tantalizes. She keeps her mouth shut, too, or they ll cut off 
her tongue. All that repression is simply irresistible to me. 
Her delicious subservience. The way she does what she s told. 
The way she understands that all these rules are for her own 
good. Think of all the repression which has been crammed into 
her swarthy body. Think of all that coiled libidinal energy, a 
hundred times more pent-up than in the most guilt-stricken 
Catholic girl. Think of how fun it would be to fuck all that 
repression out of her. 

Suddenly I m transported to a harem tent filled with big fluffy 
pillows, hash-filled hookahs, and totally hot chicks in silk 
costumes who wanna blow me. A summery breeze floats in from the 
oil fields. The smell of cocoa butter and fig newtons 
intoxicates my nostrils. A big, sopping, matted, goat-herd shrub 
waits nestled between her legs. 

She s wrapped up like a mummy, peeking out from the slit in her 
burqa. I watch lustfully as it takes her four hours to get all 
those clothes off. I sniff her Islamic vagina. Tweak her Quranic 
nipples. Poke my finger inside her Middle Eastern anus. Go on a 
Crusade  tween her legs. Invade the Holy Land. A hummus-like 
paste forms between her thighs. When I finally insert my 
falafel, she shrieks with delight. 

Happy Arabian boners pop across the Middle East. Millions of 
brown, hairy nutsacks tighten in unison. Proud Muslim girls 
hoist their lovers  cocks like AK-47s. Muslim women - YES! ... 
Muslim women - NOW!  Muslim women - GROOVY!  Muslim women - 
FUNKY FRESH! 

I want to take her home and tell her to do things. Vacuum that 
carpet, Muslim girl! Fetch me a hoagie and some cold lemonade, 
thou handmaiden of the One True Prophet! Keep your olive-colored 
bazooms tightly under wraps, Muslim girl. Stay in the house, 
Muslim girl. Stay ignorant. Stay preggers. Stay down. Down, 
girl, down! 

The word "Islam" translates literally as "submission." God wants 
us to keep the wimmens down with head scarves and 
clitoridectomies and ceaseless beatings. Shred and sew up their 
genitals in order to contain their relentless, meandering lust. 
Righteous men nod approvingly as Revolutionary Guardsmen 
disfigure the faces of women who ve worn makeup. Wives suspected 
of immorality are doused with gasoline and torched to a crisp. 
Thousands of randy Muslim bucks cheer and laugh as sin-stained 
women are herded into stadiums for public floggings. 

Islam offers several advantages for the believing man s 
enjoyment, almost all of them sexual. On Earth, a Muslim man can 
marry up to four wives at once. In heaven, he is greeted with a 
minimum of seventy-two submissive virgins poised to please him 
eternally-seventy-two Muslim broads who never break a sweat, 
never age, never get their periods, and never tell you to take 
out the trash. In paradise, a man is given the sex drive of a 
hundred men. It s like Islamic Viagra! Lo! My Penis is ever 
High, Exalted, Great. 

The Holy Quran advises us: "Men, your wives are your tillage. Go 
into your tillage any way you want." I think that means the 
Hershey Highway is OK with God. If you were so inclined, you 
could probably get away with the Dirty Sanchez and the Dutch 
Oven, too. 

The more I hear about Islam, the more I like it. Islam is such a 
cool, violent, sexy religion! Islam rocks! Those Islams is good 
people. Those Muslims know how to keep their bitches in line! 

And I ask the nonbelievers-what s so wrong with all of that? And 
I wonder-are we really on the right side in this war? It is a 
war of gender philosophies that we re fighting, and we may be on 
the wrong side, dudes. The Western man would be wise to take a 
second look at Islam, if only for the chicks. 

Would you be willing to trade some of our cherished freedoms for 
the right to enslave and abuse women? When one ponders all the 
sexy perks offered to Muslim men, it becomes obvious why they re 
willing to die for their faith. 

The attack on the Twin Towers was intrinsically phallic in its 
symbolism. Woe unto the emasculated Western Man, mocked by his 
women as he drools and begs for sex. Woe unto the West, where 
women dominate and the culture falls apart. The West will fall 
because it is pussy-whipped. We may have the money and the 
technology, but we just don t have the starch in our shorts 
anymore. 

However the winds blow, the war on terrorism will be a good 
thing for the American male. If we win the war, we get their 
women. If we lose the war, we get to treat our women like they 
treat their women. Who s to complain?



From: Citizen of the USA
To: Everyone
Subject: Just stop the violance
Date: Mon Nov 26 18:36:33 2001

Message:
Please stop. 
I think all of you have lost sight of the fact that people are 
killing other people. Just remember that all of the young learn 
from what they see at home. Teach them to stop the killing, 
weather it is the jewish kid beeing killed by an arab, or the 
black kid killing a shop owner in east la, we need to teach all 
of the kids to love and respect every person no matter what he 
or she belives in. You can say what you will but the bottom line 
is that we all are at fault for what our kids learn in life.
Just stop the killing. Stop the hate. I don't hate anyone for 
any reason, so why can you not stop hating each other??
I think any one who is responsable for any killing should be 
held accountable for there actions. I don't even hate "been 
hiding" but think he should answer for what has been done.just 
stop it

From:
To: da board
Subject: Jackie
Date: Tue Dec 3 01:01:07 2002

Message:
Jackie's so stupid, she got hit by a parked car!  What else 
could explain her stupidity?  Om/cf, please don't let someone as 
low-functioning as Jackie compel you to leave.  She's too stupid 
to know how stupid she is.  Let's engage in the time-honoured 
sport of Jackiesmack!           
               

From: U.K.Citizen
To: Citizen of the USA
Date: Tue Dec 3 01:51:56 2002

Message:
That's all very "We are the world", though it is hard to argue 
against your sentiments, saying that everybody should be 'nice' 
to each other. Nothing wrong with that. Attaining THAT elusive 
goal is far easier said than done in practice possibly. There's 
no excuse for not trying I suppose. Those of us who post here, 
don't necessarily hate others, but this board is evidence of the 
fact that many in society from whatever section of it they come 
from, don't feel like they're being listened to any more. At 
least for some, if not for all, sites like this are a way of 
expressing their concerns and anger rather than their hatred as 
you've perceived see it. I do think it's a dangerous situation 
when people don't feel that their voice is being heard, 
especially by their elected leaders. Things like political 
correctness, whatever it's aims may have been, in my opinion 
have simply served to stifle people's right to THEIR opinion 
even if it may cause offence to others. It just means important 
underlying issues in society remain unresolved, so that the next 
generation has to deal with even worse problems. But certainly 
there are those from 'wherever', who hate simply for hate's 
sake, and they'll probably never change. Every country has 
plenty of them, and Bin Laden for instance, I'd say is one of 
those people. You're right not to waste your time hating, 
because justice will eventually in form or another catch up with 
the likes of him, it always does. 

You shouldn't however take the bickering on here too seriously! 
Many are only responding in kind to aggresive comments. A 
politely expressed opinion to any one poster gets a polite 
response more often than not.     

From:
To: ALL
Subject: SUGGESTED BOARD RULES
Date: Tue Dec 3 04:49:55 2002

Message:
1. Talk to people like you would like them to talk to you.
2. Ignore those who don't follow the basic courtesy of the board
3. Try to respect the opinion of others even though sometimes 
   that isn't easy.
4. Don't disrespect yourself or others
5. The abovc rules don't apply to terrorist or terrorist 
   sympathizers. 
   

From:
To:
Date: Tue Dec 3 05:43:43 2002

Message:
From: Get a Grip
To: all
Date: Fri Nov 29 18:24:08 2002 
Message:
Why don't you write it on a dollar bill and shove it up your 
dead mothers ass? 

From: PPPPP
To: saseketchewan sasquatch snatch
Subject: keep those eyes open!!
Date: Tue Dec 3 06:46:27 2002

Message:
14 men coming into a paki girls mouth, while her fag brothers 
are made to watch. No that's a good day out!

From:
To:
Date: Tue Dec 3 08:45:47 2002

Message:
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From: Get a grip
To: u know who
Subject: u never change
Date: Tue Dec 3 08:36:11 2002

Message:
Back to your perverted crap I see. wallow in it you do. You seem 
to have gotten all upset that I cornered your sick ass. too bad. 
Notice that NO one cares, I really think you have some 
explaining to do to all who you spamed. But that's your problem. 
Not mine. Like om/cf, this board is just one of many. It doesn't 
mean much to me either. You seem obsessed, making fake posts 
about Merlyn and faking the "dead mother" as well. It would seem 
you are all twisted and worried about my business. You are on a 
need to know basis...and you don't need to know. 
                      LOL!!! 

From:
To: U R A Cunt/ U know who/ Shit Ball. etc. tec.
Date: Tue Dec 3 08:48:50 2002

Message:
And by the time you spend spamming this board, it would seem 
that is all you do all day. LOL!! 

From: Prissy Pink Powder-Puff Pansie
To:
Subject: Can-full in the wind(pipe)
Date: Tue Dec 3 10:05:02 2002

Message:
who the fuck has got my blow-up Elton.

From:
To: blow up Elton
Subject: Dead humor
Date: Tue Dec 3 10:13:49 2002

Message:
Can you believe it?  Monica Lewinsky turned 28 this week. 

It seems like only yesterday she was crawling around the White 
House on 
her hands and knees. 

From: Get a grip
To: U
Date: Tue Dec 3 10:30:58 2002

Message:
Why do you want to spam this board with a obviously anti-
American spam? Communism to America? Really? And what reaction 
do you expect? Same old Shit, Different day. LOL!

From:
To:
Date: Tue Dec 3 10:48:19 2002

Message:
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To:
Date: Tue Dec 3 11:07:16 2002

Message:
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Date: Tue Dec 3 11:09:28 2002

Message:
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From: Los Lobos
To: Fuck that said I wrote Animal Shit
Subject: I WOULD SLIT THE THROAT
Date: Tue Dec 3 17:08:43 2002

Message:
of any fucker that I saw or knew that poisoned, maimed, or 
killed animals.  I DID NOT write that sick shit, but the fucker 
that did deserves a PAINFUL DEATH AND I AM NOT KIDDING.

From: Board Goat
To: All That Reside on Here 24/7
Subject: Walter Call Home!
Date: Tue Dec 3 17:11:37 2002

Message:
Walter, call home and lettuce know that you are okay. Fact 
Finder, good to see you in fine form, we want you to live 
FOREVER and outlive the fucker that wished you death along with 
the fucker that wrote sick shit about animals. All you did was 
prove to people that you need to be PUT TO DEATH out of your 
misery.



Above posted five and a half lines in accordance with board 
rules.PS half a line for the holidays. lol

From:
To:
Subject: PUSSY TIME !!!!!
Date: Tue Dec 3 17:20:28 2002

Message:
Many a time have I wanted to beat the shit out of that furry 
little bastard that always seems to piss me off. Either by 
taking a nice warm shit on my brand new carpet, or decided to 
use me as a clawing device. 

In this small file, i'd like to suggest ways to hurt or piss of 
the little shithead that you can't get rid of, usually cuz 
you're mom thinks it's the nicest fucker alive. 

1 -- Kick it Around, you know, when the fucker get's in your 
way, whether it be when you're taking a shit and it comes in and 
watches, or when you're sleeping and it sits on your face. Just 
put a little force into it and BLAM! The fucker goes flying. 
It's especially nice to watch a cat go flying on a wood floor, 
with all four spread, doing 360's and crying like a Mexican 
without his burrito. Kicking him from under (like under the 
stomach) let's loose a flying cat, spinning and twirling in the 
air. 

2 -- Tail tricks....This is the fun part...Seeing the cat can't 
really get to it's tail, you can do shit with it and the cat it 
defenseless. Try tying the cat's tail to his front paw, cuz 
everyone time it walks, it's tail get's pulled, looks like some 
diseased person trying to walk. Or even better, get a nice grab 
of the tail, and start spinning the cat around using it, the cat 
will have to take the pain, cuz by force of nature, it can't 
reach it's paws around to scratch you since it's spinning so 
fast it's paws are spread-eagle like. If you have glue, and the 
cat's tail is long enough, or maybe just a tad shorter, you can 
glue it's tail to it's nose, which is cool. The cat moves his 
head and his ass comes up with it (how'z that for a chain 
reaction?) Like it'll be walking around town with it's ass all 
dangling up, all the other furry fucks will ram it up, which in 
turn, will make the cat freak when it tries to sit down (get 
it?). But that's kinda mean. 

3 -- Wiskers (heh, heh, heh)....Ok, you know who you are people, 
you kind that clips cat's wiskers and laughs like hell. Cat's 
use wiskers to navigate in the dark, like when they're entering 
a tight spot, their wiskers will tell them if they're about to 
run into something (kind of like those cadillacs with those 
metal tubes sticking out the side). So what do you do? You cut 
the fuckers wiskers, down to you start getting fur. Then you 
gotta through the cat in a closet, and open the door, oh, about 
4 inches. The cat will naturally be fucked and stunned that us 
humans would do such a thing (it probably is equlivant of a cat 
cutting off your dick) and he'll start bumping around, wondering 
what the fuck....So you just sit there and laugh your ass off. 
The cat might eventually make it's way out of the closet, but 
maybe you could, hmmm...Find something else to do to it after 
that? (grin> 

4 -- Pillow Case....Well, this is kind of funny...All you do is 
throw the little fuck in a pillow case, and go into an open room 
(you don't want to beat it to death, well, not yet adleast). And 
start swinging the fucker around in circles, again and again, 
the cat will probably crying for it's life (but don't give in to 
it's whining, cuz when it get's out, it wants blood) keep 
swinging it around and around, faster and faster, stop when 
you're too dizzy to figure out where the cat is, then quickly 
open the pillow case and let the bastard fall out (it WILL fall, 
believe me). You got to make sure you can see it (cuz you're 
gonna me almost as dizzy). The fucker will be sitting there, 
moving it's head in circles, still thinking it spinning. This is 
the good part, cuz as far as the cat knows, it's totally high on 
Catnip or something. You can do anything, it's up to you. 

4 -- Water ...We all know that cats hate water more than dogs, 
and would rather travel in a car then deal with it. But cat's 
are funny as hell in water. Try filling up a tub, or a sink, or 
something with water in it that the cat will fit in. Throw the 
fucker in for a minute or two (unless it's definitely going to 
drown, we'll talk about killing them later) and watch it 
squeal..They act like water is acid or something and yet they 
still drink water out of the toilet when none is available 
(these fuckers gotta get their facts straight). After the cat 
has had enough torture, grab it by the ear, or tail, or get a 
good grab around it's head and throw it out (throw it outside 
you fool). When a cat get's wet (especially a long-haired cat) 
they look like giant ferrets, really nasty like (which might 
persuade you to do something else, like nail it to a 2 by 4 and 
shoot it full of b-b's) but don't hurt it too bad.. 

5 -- Misc. shit....Stick the cat in the Microwave (no, really) 
and don't turn it on (yet) just let it sit there, and look 
through the little see-through window...It should be scared as 
hell, since it's in a really tight spot, can't move much at 
all...If you really want to screw the fucker, nuke it! Just nuke 
it for 20 seconds at a time...The cat will start squirming at 
about 10 seconds (depending on the wattage of the 
Microwave)...After about 30 seconds, the cat will definitely 
have radiation poisioning, which will probably kill it within a 
month or less. If you nuke it for a minute, you'll probably kill 
it, depending on the size of the cat, the microwave cooks inside 
out, so after a minute, it's intestines and lungs will be a 
little toasty, maybe killing it, if not, probably sterilizing it 
or leaving it a slow and terrible death. Of course, you can 
go "All-Out" if you REALLY express rage for it, and can nuke it 
for 5 minutes...This is NOT for the Squeamish....I DO know 
someone who did this, and saw it....It was pretty fucking gross, 
and being the cat hater I am, I still felt sorry for it. In 30 
seconds, it starts kicking and screaming and freaking out (which 
brings me to the point, you gotta make sure the door can't be 
opened, and you gotta make sure you don't want the microwave 
anymore). In 1 minute, it was started to spaz like nothing 
you've ever seen before, some blood was coming from it's mouth 
due to internal cuts the Nuking did, all types of seisures and 
some last moans were following at 2 minutes. At about 2 and a 
half minutes, the cat was still alive, it's pupils were dialated 
and it was twitching like someone stuck a Electrolysis gun up 
it's ass...At 3 minutes, it's almost dead...The smell of the cat 
would make any mortician throw up, that's why I would suggest 
alot of open windows and doors and some type of gas mask on. The 
last two minutes it the cool part...Now that the fucker is dead 
(for good reason too) it's time to watch the fireworks...I think 
at around 4 minutes, the cat started popping, it's eyeballs 
literally popped out of it's sockets, and the blood started to 
ooze, not a pretty sight..At about, 4 mins 15 seconds, it's fur 
starts to curl (although it was already crispy) and at about 5 
minutes, the whole microwave is one big slaughterhouse. Which 
brings me to clean up...DON'T! I said earlier, Nuke the cat in a 
microwave you no longer want to use (not to mention the 
microwave is probably broken anyway). Just throw the microwave 
away and chuckle off a couple laughs...Even take poloraids if 
you want. 


From:
To: above
Subject: your death will come soon enough
Date: Tue Dec 3 17:24:56 2002

Message:
it will be a very PAINFUL death.  Your loved ones will die and 
you will cry as you stare at their faces in the coffin and feel 
their bodies as hard as rock. You will cry because you will 
realize that you are all alone in this world and the only 
attention you will ever get is to try to shock people on the 
internet.  Assholes like you are not shocking, assholes like you 
are sad.  When you put your head on your pillow at night and 
think about the loser existance that you have, it will make you 
want to jump off the highest building as crash so far below. I 
will laugh with glee as the crimson coagulated blood and brain 
matter of yours is imbedded in the sidewalks.  YOU ARE ALREADY 
DEAD.  You have no soul. You have no life.  Soon you will die a 
horrible death.  Curses can be put on the internet and your 
messages have been printed out and rituals will be performed.  
Be very very paranoid of the black arts. You will soon die.

From:
To:
Date: Tue Dec 3 17:44:39 2002

Message:
Aw come on, you know it stinks up the house, let alone the smell 
of burnt hair really sucks. You didn't tell them to do it in the 
garage or out side. Now Los Lobos has to de tox his whole house!
  Bad directions telling him to use an old Microwave at the end, 
hell he just ruined his grandmothers microwave. When she gets 
home from Bingo, she is gonna open a can of whoop ass and give 
it to poor los lobos!! You are cruel, and Uncle Dos Dingos was 
going to fuck the cat. Now he's going to be mad at little Los 
Lobos too!

From: Get a grip
To: Board shocker
Subject: Bad taste
Date: Tue Dec 3 17:53:39 2002

Message:
Geeeez dude! you really pissed off some one. He's right you 
know. I only practice what I do for good. But I know the rest 
very well. And it can happen. I didn't write that, as you can 
tell. Ya might want to appologize... Really. Some pagans take it 
very personally when you screw with animals. Honest. 

From: Get a grip
To: shocker
Subject: You really need to do something
Date: Tue Dec 3 18:09:21 2002

Message:
soon.

From:
To:
Subject: Weirdos
Date: Tue Dec 3 18:43:27 2002

Message:
The animals are out again tonight Get a Grip and his friend.

From: u know who
To: jackie
Date: Tue Dec 3 19:03:46 2002

Message:
what are your views when it comes to that 1 black bitch in the 
back of the bus, also, would you have rather lived in 1840 ?

From:
To: ALL
Subject: CHIKIN" FUCKIN" TIME !!!!!!!!
Date: Tue Dec 3 19:20:56 2002

Message:
How To Fuck A Chicken  
     Okay, the first thing we've got to get straight here 
(besides your dick, you can get it up for a chicken, can't you?) 
is that you need to somehow acquire a chicken of the correct 
gender and condition. It has to be a hen, you know, female. A 
rooster (boy chicken) will not do, so forget it fag! Neither 
will a pullet (teenage girl chicken) do it for you. No, it has 
to be a mature female chicken that lays eggs! Nothing else will 
do the trick you pervert. Now, chickens are monotremes. No, 
that's not contagious. A monotreme is an animal with only one 
sewer pipe. That's right, a chicken only has one hole down there 
for your pleasure. The reason you need an egg-laying hen is that 
she is accustomed to opening up that hole every day to squeeze 
out an egg that is approximately the same diameter as the 
average dick. That might be too big of a hole for some of you 
pencil puds, but read on.  
     Presuming that you have obtained a proper object of 
affection, the next subject of discussion is one that you will 
really like: bondage. You need to carefully and securely tie up 
the chicken's wings and feet, especially the feet. First tie the 
wings together at their bases, as tight as you can get them, 
then wrap the whole thing in duct tape. You in a band? You 
always have duct tape if you're in a band. Or is it duck tape? 
Does anyone out there plow ducks? Don't tell me, just send 
pictures. Anyway, after tying the wings securely, tie the feet 
strongly together leaving plenty of extra cord. Bring the 
chicken's feet forward to the head, then take a wrap of the 
cords around the base of the neck and then tie them together 
wrapped around the base of the wings. Lastly, wrap the feet 
thoroughly with duct tape. Why all this bondage and tapeage? 
Besides the fun of it, it's necessary to keep your balls and 
tender inner thighs from getting ripped to shreds. Those are 
claws on the ends of that chicken's feet and she's not going to 
like it very much if you rape her. The tied wings keep them from 
flapping and beating the hell out of you (like you deserve), 
besides they make a convenient handle.  
     You are now ready to fuck your first chicken. All you need 
now is a hard-on and some lubricunt (sic). I can't help you with 
the hard-on, give yourself a hand. As for the lubricunt, Your 
hen doesn't think you are Billy (admiring the mirror) Idol or 
even Evan (Mr. Sensitivity) Dando. She ain't gonna get wet for 
you, dude. Smear lots of Vaseline on your pecker, lube the 
chicken chute and push. You got the whole thing in? Damn, you 
got a short little pud! Chickens aren't very deep. If you were a 
real man, you'd have barely more than the head in. But then, if 
you were a real man, you wouldn't be raping chickens now would 
you?  
     Your grip should be one hand around the base of the 
chicken's neck, the other holding the tied-together wings. Short 
strokes or you'll pop out. Oh yeah, you're only capable of short 
strokes, I forgot.  
     Now cums the fun (and really brutal) part. You've got to 
time this just right: when you are there and you're almost ready 
to shoot, use your non-wings hand to break the chicken's neck. 
As she dies she will convulse and undergo muscular spasms. Some 
of these spasms will be contractions around your dick and if you 
time it exactly right they will occur as you cum.  
     I believe it was that old fag Oscar Wilde who said "You 
always kill the thing you love." In this case, you can not only 
kill but also pluck, eviscerate and devour the thing you love. 
Most of you are such lame urbanites that you wouldn't have the 
necessary skills to butcher a dead lover. Jeffery Dahmer is 
dead, so he isn't able to advise you. Just throw her in the 
garbage you wasteful twerp. Maybe it would be a good idea to 
carefully conceal her in a garbage bag or something, the 
neighbors might talk.  
     You have now fucked your first chicken. Don't you feel 
really good about yourself now, Chicken Boy?  

From: u know who
To: the great chicken mind
Date: Tue Dec 3 19:29:32 2002

Message:
were u that i freak that got busted fucking a chicken because u 
had chicken pussy on your breath? was your defense in court, the 
chicken was 18 years old? did your mother and father fuck 
chickens? 

From:
To:
Date: Tue Dec 3 21:00:50 2002

Message:
Eventually America will give in to the joys of communism!
You know you want it! AMERICANS ARE REALLY COMMUNISTS!
They love communism. It's all they think about!
ALL DAY THEY MASTURBATE TO THE WORD...
communism... communism.... Communism... COMMUNISM!!!
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's not long now before the white and blue are erased from
your flag. You'll happily paint your flag and your whole
nation red too! And everybody will look upon the visage of
Karl Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Kruschev, Guevara and Castro and cheer 
for joy, for the workers have won! They have overthrown their 
capitalist oppressors, and their lackeys, the media, and the 
former government! Americans will have the veil of patriotism 
and misinformation lifted from their heads and will seek the 
path...

the path of..

COMMUNISM!
COMMUNISM!
COMMUNISM!
COMMUNISM!
COMMUNISM!
COMMUNISM!

Ya know ya want it! So stop pretending, I can tell hehe.

From: Get a grip
To:
Date: Tue Dec 3 21:12:58 2002

Message:
Really, those kind will turn you into a cat, that is owned by a 
demented little creep, that will read your post, and sneak into 
the kitchen, and put you in the microwave, on high, for about 30 
minuts.............>Pop< drip....drip...

From:
To:
Date: Tue Dec 3 21:16:07 2002

Message:
Drip....Drip...

From:
To:
Date: Tue Dec 3 21:14:06 2002

Message:
Eventually America will give in to the joys of communism!
You know you want it! AMERICANS ARE REALLY COMMUNISTS!
They love communism. It's all they think about!
ALL DAY THEY MASTURBATE TO THE WORD...
communism... communism.... Communism... COMMUNISM!!!
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's not long now before the white and blue are erased from
your flag. You'll happily paint your flag and your whole
nation red too! And everybody will look upon the visage of
Karl Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Kruschev, Guevara and Castro and cheer 
for joy, for the workers have won! They have overthrown their 
capitalist oppressors, and their lackeys, the media, and the 
former government! Americans will have the veil of patriotism 
and misinformation lifted from their heads and will seek the 
path...

the path of..

COMMUNISM!
COMMUNISM!
COMMUNISM!
COMMUNISM!
COMMUNISM!
COMMUNISM!

Ya know ya want it! So stop pretending, I can tell hehe.

From:
To:
Date: Tue Dec 3 21:21:16 2002

Message:
ALL AMERICANS WILL MEOW TO THE TUNE OF THE INTERNATIONALE!
COMMUNISM! WOO! COMMUNISM! WOO WOO!

From: Get a grip
To: LOL!! ( I can't fucking beleive this
Subject: Bunny huggers now rate as evil terrorist threat. HOME LAND SECURITY TO THE RESCUE!! (God save us all!)
Date: Tue Dec 3 21:23:35 2002

Message:
Although these terrorists aren't the typical evildoers, what's 
known as "special-interest extremism," or "eco-terrorism," is a 
very real terrorist threat. 

Environmental and animal-rights activists preach peace and love, 
but the FBI classifies the Animal Liberation Front, for example, 
as a terrorist group, and describes it as "one of the most 
active extremists elements in the United States."

The FBI classifies the Earth Liberation Front (ELF) with ALF as 
the two main groups that characterize special-interest 
extremism. In fact, ELF is actually modeled after ALF.

As of February of this year, the FBI estimates that the ALF and 
ELF have committed more than 600 criminal acts in the U.S. since 
1996, resulting in damages in excess of $43 million. The FBI 
said last year that eight of what the law enforcement group 
deemed "terrorist incidents" during 1999 were attributed to 
either ALF or ELF.

ELF operates in cells, all of which are anonymous to each other 
and the public. The group's goals, according to its Web site, 
is "to inflict economic damage on those profiting from the 
destruction and exploitation of the natural environment; to 
reveal and educate the public on the atrocities committed 
against the earth and all species that populate it; to take all 
necessary precautions against harming any animal, human and non-
human."

ALF, which says it is non-violent, consists of small autonomous 
groups of people who consider themselves vegetarians or vegans. 
The group's Web site says its short-term aim "is to save as many 
animals as possible and directly disrupt the practice of animal 
abuse." The group's long-term goal is "to end all animal 
suffering by forcing animal abuse companies out of business."

In recent years, a string of crimes shows the distinction 
environmental and animal-rights activists have traditionally 
observed   between targeting property and targeting people   is 
breaking down.

Groups like ELF and People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals 
(PETA) have begun giving financial support to some very violent 
individuals.

For example, PETA gave $7,500 to Fran Trutt, who was convicted 
of attempted murder after he planted a radio-controlled nail 
bomb to kill the president of a U.S. medical company that used 
animals to research the use of staples in human operations. No 
one was hurt.

PETA also gave $20,000 to Rodney Coronado, convicted of burning 
a research lab at Michigan State University, and $5,000 to Josh 
Harper, who was convicted of assaulting police. PETA has also 
donated money to ELF-sponsored acts. PETA funding of such 
violent acts has even caused critics of the group to push for an 
end to its tax-exempt, non-profit status.

And in Britain last year, the managing director of a drug-
testing facility that experiments on animals was beaten by three 
masked men with baseball bats. An executive for the same company 
based in the United States was subjected to repeated harassment.

These kinds of attacks are back in the news lately following a 
vandalism spree against about 40 SUVs in central Virginia, which 
caused an estimated $45,000 worth of damage. Since July 2002, 
the SUVs were treated with glass-etching cream, had their tires 
slashed or have been subject to other damaging activity. Damage 
to just two of the vehicles was estimated at $15,000, according 
to ELF.

"We're looking around, checking people, suspicious characters, 
you know, just trying to keep an eye on the neighborhood and 
everything," said one of the victimized drivers. "I really think 
it's unfair - people damaging other people's property like that. 
It really upsets me that someone wants to do that to other 
people."

ELF acknowledged that the SUV attacks likely were carried out by 
member cells in the Richmond, Va., area.

"SUVs have not only added tremendous amounts of pollution to our 
environment, but have also contributed to increased congestion 
on roadways and higher death rates in auto accidents," the ELF 
Web site says. "ELF actions are a reminder to SUV owners of how 
their personal choices affect the society and environment in 
which they live."

Just one of the many other destructive acts ELF claimed 
responsibility for was an Aug. 11 arson attack on the U.S. 
Forest Service Northeast Research Station in Irvine, Pa. The 
laboratory there was set ablaze, causing more than $700,000 in 
damage and destroying portions of 70 years worth of research.

ELF threatened similar facilities with other destruction.

These groups have also hit fast-food chains and other similar 
establishments.

Those in the movement call themselves "eco-defense activists."

"If we really believe that animals have the same right to be 
free from pain and suffering at our hands, then of course we're 
going to be blowing things up and smashing windows," PETA's 
vegan outreach director said recently. "I think it's a great way 
to bring animal liberation, considering the level of suffering, 
the atrocities. I think it would be great if all of the fast-
food outlets, slaughterhouses, these laboratories and banks that 
fund them, exploded tomorrow."

Last year, a member of ELF spoke with Fox News about his group's 
ends and means, and why members perpetrate such crimes.

"It sends out a threat to those who assault environment that we 
will escalate tactics," ELF spokesman Leslie James told Fox in 
May 2001. "Because we only have one Earth, we need to protect it 
with everything we have."


From: bonjour0
To: who ever the hel wrote the above
Subject: bastard
Date: Wed Dec 5 15:57:20 2001

Message:
who ever wrote the above statements, u are bastards.

From:
To:
Date: Tue Dec 3 22:41:19 2002

Message:
Eventually America will give in to the joys of communism!
You know you want it! AMERICANS ARE REALLY COMMUNISTS!
They love communism. It's all they think about!
ALL DAY THEY MASTURBATE TO THE WORD...
communism... communism.... Communism... COMMUNISM!!!
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's not long now before the white and blue are erased from
your flag. You'll happily paint your flag and your whole
nation red too! And everybody will look upon the visage of
Karl Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Kruschev, Guevara and Castro and cheer 
for joy, for the workers have won! They have overthrown their 
capitalist oppressors, and their lackeys, the media, and the 
former government! Americans will have the veil of patriotism 
and misinformation lifted from their heads and will seek the 
path...

the path of..

COMMUNISM!
COMMUNISM!
COMMUNISM!
COMMUNISM!
COMMUNISM!
COMMUNISM!

Ya know ya want it! So stop pretending, I can tell hehe.


From:
To:
Date: Tue Dec 3 22:44:02 2002

Message:
Eventually America will give in to the joys of communism!
You know you want it! AMERICANS ARE REALLY COMMUNISTS!
They love communism. It's all they think about!
ALL DAY THEY MASTURBATE TO THE WORD...
communism... communism.... Communism... COMMUNISM!!!
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's not long now before the white and blue are erased from
your flag. You'll happily paint your flag and your whole
nation red too! And everybody will look upon the visage of
Karl Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Kruschev, Guevara and Castro and cheer 
for joy, for the workers have won! They have overthrown their 
capitalist oppressors, and their lackeys, the media, and the 
former government! Americans will have the veil of patriotism 
and misinformation lifted from their heads and will seek the 
path...

the path of..

COMMUNISM!
COMMUNISM!
COMMUNISM!
COMMUNISM!
COMMUNISM!
COMMUNISM!

Ya know ya want it! So stop pretending, I can tell hehe.


From:
To:
Date: Tue Dec 3 22:45:22 2002

Message:
dwop

From: om/cf
To: Get a grip
Subject: Tree Huggin'.....terrorists? Yes.
Date: Tue Dec 3 21:52:44 2002

Message:
At a toll of 43 million in damages since 1996 and charges 
ranging from simple vandalism to arson and attempted murder, I'd 
say these whacko's are a few rungs above "bunny huggers". The 
article posted seems to point out very clearly that these groups 
are using terrorist/threatening tactics. While Im very much in 
favour of saving and preserving wildlife and habitat, some of 
these groups (or parts of them) are completly off the wall. The 
midwest is overrun with Whitetail deer (like 10 or 20 times the 
population of 1900). Every year more and more are drilled by cars
on highways and county roads. I've hit two in the last twenty 
years and I must say, venison sausage tastes just as good from a 
roadkill as it does from bowhunting or shotgun slugs. If you hit 
one in Illinois, its yours, provided you contact the police. Of 
course the cost of replacing the grille, headlights and 
windshield make it a cost-ineffective way of hunting! But 
anyway, even in the face of over-population and the rapidly 
spreading Cronic Wasteing Disease (CWD) the Bambie lover crowd 
is still against hunting even though its the only effective 
population control tool and even hunting can't keep up.

Now in this statement from the article, if one were to replace 
enviroment with Islam and ELF with oh, I don't know, (there's so 
many to choose from) say HAMAS, it would sound like terrorism to 
me.  


"It sends out a threat to those who assault environment that we 
will escalate tactics," ELF spokesman Leslie James told Fox in 
May 2001.

From:
To:
Date: Tue Dec 3 23:04:35 2002

Message:
Did you know that the animals of the world are planning a 
communist takeover. ELF and ALF are just their tool, their 
device for weakening the will of Gods hallowed creation, MAN.

ANIMALS ARE THE ULTIMATE SOULLESS CREATION
THEY ARE THE ULTIMATE PAGAN.

THE ANTICHRIST IS A DOG (GOD SPELLED BACKWARD)!!!!!!!

WE MUST SUBJUGATE ALL ANIMALS, OR KILL THEM!

EVEN BUGS!

BUGS ARE THE WORST!

AND MICROSCOPIC ONES AS WELL!

They are plotting against us with their little buggy minds. They 
want to make us all communist muslim atheists because they are 
bugs. Haven't you seen the movie 'Alien'?

Well, they WANT ALL OF US TO LOOK LIKE THAT!

Yes, they are parasites will make the world a communist mosque 
if they have their own way, SO WE MUST KILL ANIMALS AND 
EVOLUTIONISTS BECAUSE ILL BE DAMNED IF IM DESCENDED FROM AN APE!

From: om/cf
To: Re-Run
Date: Tue Dec 3 22:53:41 2002

Message:
Why is it the lamest, weakest assholes to participate on these 
boards feel its necessary to run their latest brain-fart as if 
they have purchased time slots for their commercial adverts on 
local radio? Re-runs blow.

From:
To:
Date: Tue Dec 3 23:15:53 2002

Message:
Psalm 42

From:
To:
Date: Tue Dec 3 23:17:49 2002

Message:
Whether of not animals have feelings or not is irrelevant 
because they have been put here solely for our benefit. I can 
fuck a pig up the ass with a knife and still have my ticket to 
heaven intact. That's just the way it is and I'll take full 
advantage of that fact. SOOEEE.

By the way, is Marie around hehe

From: om/cf
To: yet another ?
Date: Tue Dec 3 23:32:43 2002

Message:
Here's a story for ya city boy! Have you ever seen a cow 
artificially inseminated? Slow down now - I know your getting 
all excited - OK, thats it....No story for YOU!

From:
To:
Date: Wed Dec 4 00:15:24 2002

Message:
I like it when the vet has to stick their gloved hand right up a 
cows anus and it comes out covered in shit. I wonder if ever a 
vet has licked that shit off... even by accident.

From: Marie
To: U Know Who/U R A Cunt/a/k/a Dipshit!!!!
Subject: Or whatever the hell your name is!!
Date: Tue Dec 3 23:23:40 2002

Message:
I have read the last few days worth of Soap Opera, now what is 
it you want you Horrid Little Waste Of Skin? Playing with 
yourself got boring eh? You are a sickening and pathetic little 
dweeb! I dont think we have ANYTHING to discuss but shoot!
Spit it out! What is it??????


By the way I hope THE REST OF YOU  had a nice Thanksgiving!
I'm sure U Know Who Had Cat!!!

From:
To:
Subject: HOW STUPID ARE YOU PEOPLE?
Date: Tue Dec 3 23:52:51 2002

Message:
As of February of this year, the FBI estimates that the ALF and 
ELF have committed more than 600 criminal acts in the U.S. since 
1996, resulting in damages in excess of $43 million. The FBI 
said last year that eight of what the law enforcement group 
deemed "terrorist incidents" during 1999 were attributed to 
either ALF or ELF.

DO YOU FEEL SAFE KNOWING THAT THE FBI IS KEEPING TRACK OF $43M 
WORTH OF CRIME, BUT CANT KEEP UP WITH THEIR OWN EMPLOYEES, WHO 
STEAL OR DESTROY $75M A YEAR FROM THEM?

HOMELAND SECURITY HAS SO FAR SHOWN THE US THAT IT CAN KEEP TABS 
ON EVERY PETA MEMBER, BUT HASNT SHOWN MUCH INTEREST IN STOPPING 
TERRORISTS FROM ENTERING THE US.
HATS OFF TO THE NEWEST MULTIBILLION DOLLAR GOVERNMENT AGENCY!

From: Marie
To: Jackie
Date: Wed Dec 4 00:22:39 2002

Message:
Look Bitch before you type to me learn how to FUCKING SPELL 
FIRST!!! Did someone pee in your cheerios? And what are you 
going to do? CYBER ARREST ME? P'Shaw!!!! Pull your head out of 
your ass, put down the Kuran, and act like an AMERICAN if you 
are one! Good God! Grow the fuck up.

From: Marie
To: Jackie
Subject: Oh Yeah
Date: Wed Dec 4 00:32:26 2002

Message:
IT'S MARIE YOU FUCKING MORON, NOT MARIA!!!!

From: U.K.Citizen
To: No name poster, Merlyn
Date: Wed Dec 4 00:54:43 2002

Message:
No name poster: In an attempt to set the record straight for 
your benefit, here's how I see things...and, I really DO see it 
THIS way.

So, with reference to this post;

From: 
To: 
Subject: LOOK AT HIS REFERENCES TO SHIT>>FAGGOT>>SPERM>>AND HIS 
CONSTANT TALK OF DEAD MOTHERS>>>>>RING A BELL OM/CF?
>>>>>>>>>>>>NOTICE WHEN HE STAYS AWAY FOR A FEW DAYS THE PEOPLE 
WHO POST ABOUT SHIT DISAPPEAR ALSO?>>>>>>>>>>>>>IF YOU 
PEOPLE>>>>>>>WALTER,OM/CF,JUSTICE,NORTH CAROLINA 
GAL,U.K.CITIZEN>>>>>>>>>>>APPROVE OF THIS>>>>THEN KISS YOUR BORD 
GOODBYE 
Date: Mon Dec 2 18:10:45 2002 
Message:
LOOK AT HOW HE INCLUDES EVERYONE WHEN HE TRYS TO BLAST 
SOMEONE>>>>ALLWAYS WE ALL KNOW IT>>>>>>NO ONE LIKES 
YOU>>>>>>NONE OF US>>>>>>NEVER HIM ALONE

..I'll just start by saying, yes, the spamming and the arguments 
between Merlyn and whomever objected to his presence on here did 
irritate me. I can't speak for others mind you, only myself. But 
as far as I'm concerned the board became less active as a result 
of the departure of EagleEye, more than the arrival of anybody 
else. He captured the prevailing 'mood' at that time. Posters 
were angry and trying to make some sense of what was going on. 
Though people may have objected to the content of EagleEye's 
posts they certainly had an entertainment value to them, which 
kept people coming back to the board. That was then. I think 
many have simply moved on, and a good thing too. For them, as 
I've said before, the board has served it's purpose in 
discussing issues that refered to the background picture. 
Anybody remember THAT? Having said that, with the best will in 
the world, nobody can keep making reference to 9-11 endlessly, 
months and months after the event, though I try to touch base 
with that issue every now and then, just for the sake of 
relevance.

When it comes down to it, if people want to post something badly 
enough, they'll post it. There's nothing stopping anybody, as 
aptly demonstrated by some of the stranger posts. I'd previously 
said myself that I felt that I had little more to contribute to 
the board that was of any relevance to the subject matter. Most 
of my posts are waffling on about nothing in particular, just 
keeping in touch mainly with a few of the 'veterans'. If over 
that intervening period, you yourself had for instance wished to 
discuss topics relevant to this board with me, I would have 
obliged by replying. The reason Merlyn and I post to each other, 
is simply because we want to have a discussion. It's NOT a 
matter of me chosing sides, or 'ignoring' things that maybe 
obvious to you and that should be obvious to me. I'm not here to 
pick fights with people, although I took exception to 'America 
bashers' in the months following the attacks. I made sure, 
whether their approach was either foul mouthed or intellectual, 
I always had the last word..and I always did. Sadly, I'm only a 
mere shadow of my former persona on here. Basically because I'm 
not as annoyed as I used to be. A 'ghost' if you will.  

Merlyn: Speaking of ghosts, I'd have to disagree. That most 
certainly was Walter in my opinion. Of course, nobody can be 
certain about anything on this board or any other message board 
100 percent, either way. However, before you joined the board, 
there had been many interesting 'exchanges of opinion' 
(euphamistically put) between Walter and....everybody else. He 
got people's backs up and many started posting as 'Walter'. It 
became obvious it wasn't him. Much, if not all of this stuff has 
long been edited out and so you're at a disadvantage from not 
being able to refer to anything from that time. You'll have to 
take my word for it. On my request he stated to me which posts 
he actually was responsible for, aside from the posts that 
gained the wrath of the board. At that point I began to realise 
I'd misjudged him. Unfortunately, subsequent to that I got 
Walter mixed up with whoever took exception to you. They were 
two different posters. As you know, Walter was candid enough to 
say that he took exception to you, but that he didn't wish to 
push things in case it disrupted the board any further. In any 
confrontation with a poster I've wanted to take on, I've only 
ever backed down on ONE occasion. That was for Walter. I'd 
misjudged him for a second time, and I felt I had to apologise. 
He too apologised for his comments in prior months, and the 
matter was then settled.

With reference to that last post, I know you hope that wasn't 
Walter, and so do I. I got the sense that Walter always 'SAID 
what he meant, and MEANT what he said'. THAT'S what really 
concerns me about that post. I just hope to goodness he didn't 
follow through on that. The word 'tragic' doesn't do justice to 
this situation. The trouble is nobody will know for SURE, and 
that's what really pisses me off! Fuck that!!

I do stress that I'm NOT blaming you Merlyn or anybody else. 
Ultimately, people are responsible for their own actions. Walter 
in my opinion was brave, principled and he stood up for his 
country, by expressing his deep concerns and real fears for the 
state of democracy, in the land that he had risked his life for.

Like I said, if he returns, great. If not, I'll never mention 
this subject again for however long I remain on the board. 

Anyway, moving on.

In reply to your post, in short, Muslims and Islam have a major 
reformation to go through, lest this situation get any worse. 
That's their problem I guess. It worked for Christianity, via 
Martin Luther. It's far more benign. Which doesn't explain the 
fact that fewer and fewer people go to church anymore. Western 
Europe anyway, is seemingly drifting towards being 'post 
religious' whatever that entails.

It's damned if you do, and damned if you don't, regarding 
America's interests in the middle east. An Iraqi expat, the 
daughter of one of Hussein's scientists now living in Britian, 
put forward a VERY strong argument for intervening in Iraq, 
simply from a human rights standpoint. Her father represents 
many others who are forced to work for the regime, or risk 
losing the lives of their families as well as their own. She 
says there would be enough of an organised opposition to replace 
the current regime. But, as you say all sorts of things can 
happen. If the Shi'ite Muslims take power, of a previously 
SECULAR state, the Iraqi Christians maybe in peril, along with 
other knock on effects. It IS all a matter of opinion. One 
thing's for sure, once in, there's no easy way out. And with 80 
percent of Afghanistan still essentially lawless under the rule 
of local warlords, there's a very real posibility, of the return 
of the Taliban in some force with the aim of ousting the U.S. 
backed Karzai 'government'. Another quagmire, if people aren't 
sufficiently alert to the situation.

With the tanker 'Prestigue' sinking off Spain, blighting it's NW 
coastline for years to come, and with the areas hit by 
the 'Exxon Valdise' oil spill having still not yet recovered 
after 12 years, by estimation, the human race seems to be intent 
on species suicide. Not to mention the fact that every 
single 'single-hulled tanker' is a potential al-Qaeda target, 
there's not a great deal of forward think happening right now. 
New technology, a lot of it U.S. based could come to the rescue 
in finding alternative energy sources if the will is there. As 
always, vested interests will make sure things get worse. Is it 
viewed as being 'Unamerican' to no longer wish to have any oil 
interests in the Middle East region as far as you see it? I'm 
sure a number of U.S. isolationist thinkers wishing to have 
nothing further to do with the region would disagree. But, then 
it's right back to, damned if you do and damned if you don't.

              U.K.Citizen

From:
To:
Date: Wed Dec 4 03:36:42 2002

Message:
Marie is a dopey dora. Why don't you get pregnant again, that 
way you'll get more welfare. How is your trailer. SOOEEE!!!!!

I bet you were easy in school. All the guys got a turn at 
filling you up like their little tutle.

HA HA HA

From: U>
To:
Date: Wed Dec 4 05:24:07 2002

Message:

From: SHOTSZY
To: U.K. CITIZEN
Subject: BOARD
Date: Wed Dec 4 05:38:26 2002

Message:
THANKS FOR THE HISTORY LESSON ABOUT THE BOARD. I HAVE RECENTLY 
BEEN READING ALL THE MESSAGES ON THE BOARD AND HAVE COME TO 
CONCLUSION, WITH SOME EXCEPTIONS ,THAT MOST POSTING IS DONE BY 
MORONS AND THERE IS LITTLE ROOM FOR  DISCUSSION OF VARIOUS 
OPINIONS WITH INTELLIGENT PEOPLE. I HAVE ENJOYED SOME OF THE 
INTELLIGENT DISSCUSIONS ON THE BOARD BUT THEY ARE FAR AND FEW 
BETWEEN ALL THE IDIOTS OUT THERE. I'M OUT OF HERE, SOME WILL BE 
HAPPY,TO FIND ANOTHER BOARD.

From: Jackie
To: Marie
Subject: Lickity Clit
Date: Wed Dec 4 08:37:38 2002

Message:
Girl, I want to be your black slave and I will take down your 
panties until they are down to your ankles, girl, I will suck 
your lovely white nipples and fondle your breasts.  I will 
lovingly plant my black face down into your furry bush and lick 
and lick your lickity clit!  I will suck on your clit and make 
the flicks go faster and faster until you cum a thousand times 
woman! I want to be white and between a white girls legs, so 
when I prayed to Allah, I woke up the next morning and found out 
that he made me a KOTEX! loooooooooooooooooooooooool! I have 
been a slave on the plantation for many decades now and have had 
to lick the shit out of assholes in the house.  I will put my 
finger up your little beautiful pink rosebud asshole and kiss 
your asshole a million times before I stick me tongue up there 
too mon!  looooooooooooooooooooooooooooool.  Once you try black 
you never go back woman!  I hope that you be eating the cheddar 
cheese and farting a mile long when I douse you girl. We can 
make your husband watch and he can beat his meat as you scream 
with pleasure.  I wear a pair of long old lady granny style 
panties and have the crotch cut out so I can strap me dildo into 
it.  I will use a double dildo so we can both be fucked as we 
fuck each other. White girl, I will eat a mile of your shit just 
to lick out your asshole.  If you have your period girl, I will 
love it even better so that I can smell more of your funk. I 
will lick your clit all the way to your asshole and insert me 
tongue straight up into your distal colon!  that is pretty good 
for me long black tongue.  When the masters on the plantation do 
not give me enough food to eat, I have had to practice making my 
tongue long, so, like a frog, I use my long tongue to catch 
flies! that is why me tongue is so long girl. 
looooooooooooooooooooooooool! Sistas are doing it for themselves 
girl.  I like the way you  put me back in me place. Please fart 
for me now through the computer so that I can smell it.  Eddie 
Murphy the little black sambo, did his last CUNTcert where he 
ran around in the stage until he turned into butter.  More 
butter to grease your butt for another DOUBLE DILDO plunge girl. 
One in your beautiful delicous cunt hole and another into your 
lovely rosebud asshole which I will be feasting upon.  I want to 
be your black slave and every time you take a shit, I will open 
up me mouth to catch the choclate fudge.  Mother, may I?  
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool. I am a KUFFAR!!!

From:
To:
Date: Wed Dec 4 08:46:44 2002

Message:
xxxxxxxx

From: Gerbil Master
To: all
Subject: jackie is a dumb NIGGER
Date: Wed Dec 4 08:54:38 2002

Message:
N.I.G.G.E.R.  

From: Get a Grip
To:
Date: Wed Dec 4 09:09:14 2002

Message:
From: Get a grip 
To: LOL!! ( I can't fucking beleive this 
Subject: Bunny huggers now rate as evil terrorist threat. HOME 
LAND SECURITY TO THE RESCUE!! (God save us all!) 
Date: Tue Dec 3 21:23:35 2002 
Message:
Although these terrorists aren't the typical evildoers, what's 
known as "special-interest extremism," or "eco-terrorism," is a 
very real terrorist threat. 

Environmental and animal-rights activists preach peace and 
love, 
but the FBI classifies the Animal Liberation Front, for 
example, 
as a terrorist group, and describes it as "one of the most 
active extremists elements in the United States."

The FBI classifies the Earth Liberation Front (ELF) with ALF as 
the two main groups that characterize special-interest 
extremism. In fact, ELF is actually modeled after ALF.

As of February of this year, the FBI estimates that the ALF and 
ELF have committed more than 600 criminal acts in the U.S. 
since 
1996, resulting in damages in excess of $43 million. The FBI 
said last year that eight of what the law enforcement group 
deemed "terrorist incidents" during 1999 were attributed to 
either ALF or ELF.

ELF operates in cells, all of which are anonymous to each other 
and the public. The group's goals, according to its Web site, 
is "to inflict economic damage on those profiting from the 
destruction and exploitation of the natural environment; to 
reveal and educate the public on the atrocities committed 
against the earth and all species that populate it; to take all 
necessary precautions against harming any animal, human and non-
human."

ALF, which says it is non-violent, consists of small autonomous 
groups of people who consider themselves vegetarians or vegans. 
The group's Web site says its short-term aim "is to save as 
many 
animals as possible and directly disrupt the practice of animal 
abuse." The group's long-term goal is "to end all animal 
suffering by forcing animal abuse companies out of business."

In recent years, a string of crimes shows the distinction 
environmental and animal-rights activists have traditionally 
observed   between targeting property and targeting people   is 
breaking down.

Groups like ELF and People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals 
(PETA) have begun giving financial support to some very violent 
individuals.

For example, PETA gave $7,500 to Fran Trutt, who was convicted 
of attempted murder after he planted a radio-controlled nail 
bomb to kill the president of a U.S. medical company that used 
animals to research the use of staples in human operations. No 
one was hurt.

PETA also gave $20,000 to Rodney Coronado, convicted of burning 
a research lab at Michigan State University, and $5,000 to Josh 
Harper, who was convicted of assaulting police. PETA has also 
donated money to ELF-sponsored acts. PETA funding of such 
violent acts has even caused critics of the group to push for 
an 
end to its tax-exempt, non-profit status.

And in Britain last year, the managing director of a drug-
testing facility that experiments on animals was beaten by 
three 
masked men with baseball bats. An executive for the same 
company 
based in the United States was subjected to repeated harassment.

These kinds of attacks are back in the news lately following a 
vandalism spree against about 40 SUVs in central Virginia, 
which 
caused an estimated $45,000 worth of damage. Since July 2002, 
the SUVs were treated with glass-etching cream, had their tires 
slashed or have been subject to other damaging activity. Damage 
to just two of the vehicles was estimated at $15,000, according 
to ELF.

"We're looking around, checking people, suspicious characters, 
you know, just trying to keep an eye on the neighborhood and 
everything," said one of the victimized drivers. "I really 
think 
it's unfair - people damaging other people's property like 
that. 
It really upsets me that someone wants to do that to other 
people."

ELF acknowledged that the SUV attacks likely were carried out 
by 
member cells in the Richmond, Va., area.

"SUVs have not only added tremendous amounts of pollution to 
our 
environment, but have also contributed to increased congestion 
on roadways and higher death rates in auto accidents," the ELF 
Web site says. "ELF actions are a reminder to SUV owners of how 
their personal choices affect the society and environment in 
which they live."

Just one of the many other destructive acts ELF claimed 
responsibility for was an Aug. 11 arson attack on the U.S. 
Forest Service Northeast Research Station in Irvine, Pa. The 
laboratory there was set ablaze, causing more than $700,000 in 
damage and destroying portions of 70 years worth of research.

ELF threatened similar facilities with other destruction.

These groups have also hit fast-food chains and other similar 
establishments.

Those in the movement call themselves "eco-defense activists."

"If we really believe that animals have the same right to be 
free from pain and suffering at our hands, then of course we're 
going to be blowing things up and smashing windows," PETA's 
vegan outreach director said recently. "I think it's a great 
way 
to bring animal liberation, considering the level of suffering, 
the atrocities. I think it would be great if all of the fast-
food outlets, slaughterhouses, these laboratories and banks 
that 
fund them, exploded tomorrow."

Last year, a member of ELF spoke with Fox News about his 
group's 
ends and means, and why members perpetrate such crimes.

"It sends out a threat to those who assault environment that we 
will escalate tactics," ELF spokesman Leslie James told Fox in 
May 2001. "Because we only have one Earth, we need to protect 
it 
with everything we have."



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From: bonjour0 
To: who ever the hel wrote the above 
Subject: bastard 
Date: Wed Dec 5 15:57:20 2001 
Message:
who ever wrote the above statements, u are bastards.

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From: 
To: 
Date: Tue Dec 3 22:41:19 2002 
Message:
Eventually America will give in to the joys of communism!
You know you want it! AMERICANS ARE REALLY COMMUNISTS!
They love communism. It's all they think about!
ALL DAY THEY MASTURBATE TO THE WORD...
communism... communism.... Communism... COMMUNISM!!!
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's not long now before the white and blue are erased from
your flag. You'll happily paint your flag and your whole
nation red too! And everybody will look upon the visage of
Karl Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Kruschev, Guevara and Castro and 
cheer 
for joy, for the workers have won! They have overthrown their 
capitalist oppressors, and their lackeys, the media, and the 
former government! Americans will have the veil of patriotism 
and misinformation lifted from their heads and will seek the 
path...

the path of..

COMMUNISM!
COMMUNISM!
COMMUNISM!
COMMUNISM!
COMMUNISM!
COMMUNISM!

Ya know ya want it! So stop pretending, I can tell hehe.



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From: 
To: 
Date: Tue Dec 3 22:44:02 2002 
Message:
Eventually America will give in to the joys of communism!
You know you want it! AMERICANS ARE REALLY COMMUNISTS!
They love communism. It's all they think about!
ALL DAY THEY MASTURBATE TO THE WORD...
communism... communism.... Communism... COMMUNISM!!!
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's not long now before the white and blue are erased from
your flag. You'll happily paint your flag and your whole
nation red too! And everybody will look upon the visage of
Karl Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Kruschev, Guevara and Castro and 
cheer 
for joy, for the workers have won! They have overthrown their 
capitalist oppressors, and their lackeys, the media, and the 
former government! Americans will have the veil of patriotism 
and misinformation lifted from their heads and will seek the 
path...

the path of..

COMMUNISM!
COMMUNISM!
COMMUNISM!
COMMUNISM!
COMMUNISM!
COMMUNISM!

Ya know ya want it! So stop pretending, I can tell hehe.



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From: R U MY CUNT?
To: Shotzy
Subject: Shot in the Head
Date: Wed Dec 4 08:37:38 2002

Message:
how about a shot in the head to make you fly out of here 
sooner?  EAT MY ASSHOLE.............

From: Merlyn
To: U.K.Citizen
Subject: Damed either way
Date: Wed Dec 4 08:39:26 2002

Message:
Taking it from the top;
  Yes, it is obvious that I took exception to the bord spammers 
and pervert, shock and slander. All said, I took the heat. I can 
take it and give it back ten fold. I know it disrupted the 
board, but as I saw it, the board was getting disrupted anyway 
and no one else was able to take the spammers on. I did. They 
spewed crap about everyone s dead mother, so now every time they 
posted crap, they got the dead mother response slapped right 
back on them. Now they cry like babies about it. But it does no 
good for them. We all know what they did and nothing they do now 
can change that. The fake Walter was fake. His argument was 
based on the spammer s disgruntled unhappiness over my prodding. 
As soon as I slammed his argument he immediately did what he 
always does and bailed out. Walter never bailed out, he always 
came to terms. That is how I know the suicide was bullshit. 
   But as I say, and say again, it is just a message board. If 
indeed it gets to the spammers that I continue to post, TOUGH 
SHIT! all the better as far as I am concerned. If they want to 
call a truce, Just as well, I will comply. But that does not 
mean they can continue to be blatant ASS HOLES to everyone else. 
That won't float with me and if they continue to spam Marie and 
every one else I will continue to slam them every time. Just my 
nature to take on the heat. Fuck them if they can't take it, 
they dish it out...
   As for those who disagree, that is different, but when you 
insult, that is not disagreement or discussion. That is just 
being rude. Challenging my opinion can be done constructively, 
with out personal insult. Yes, right now it is extra hard to 
dis. with me right now. and that is just too bad. Be nice or get 
fucked is all I can say for now. 
  

As for Iraq, like I said..there will be no war with Iraq. We are 
NOT marching into Baghdad right now, when everyone said we 
would. I was right then and I am right now. Starting a war with 
Iraq right now would be a very stupid move for the US. Yes 
Saddam needs a bullet in his head, and the regime is a 
tyrannical monarchy, and every reason to wipe that place clean 
is valid. But there are much MUCH more powerful factors 
involved. Like dominoes they will follow and the scope of the 
war will become far more than we can handle on our own. We had 
our chance, and we BLEW IT! We had Baghdad in our cross hairs at 
a time when no one else was ready to act. We should have 
followed through. Now the whole world is triggered on this one 
act. And if wisdom is to prevail we need to look elsewhere. Iraq 
is not our problem, though it is a threat to our interests. 
Right now we have a real problem to take care of. Our Israel 
friends (despite my feeling) need our help. The Alqueda is 
feeding on this conflict. And it is in this holy land we must 
turn our focus. 
  I stand by my prediction to this day. And here it is, December 
and there is no war in Iraq. 
  It is a pleasure to converse with you U.K.Citizen. and in that 
respect I will put aside my board war with the spammer. I think 
I made my point. And that said. Have a good day.  
   

From:
To:
Subject: assholes
Date: Wed Dec 4 08:37:38 2002

Message:
it's not just for breakfast anymore.....

From: U know Who
To: ass hole
Subject: above perverted one liner
Date: Wed Dec 4 09:42:55 2002

Message:
Oh you are so fucking smart, Ho Ho Ho what a real bright 
remark...NOT. 

From: Shotzy
To: U know Who
Subject: my Ass Hole
Date: Wed Dec 4 09:45:09 2002

Message:
Hey I can lick my ass hole any time I want to! I'm just like a 
dog. I can suck my own dick!

From: Los Lobos
To: Shotzy
Subject: Ass holes
Date: Wed Dec 4 09:46:19 2002

Message:
Ass hole? Did someone call my name????

From:
To:
Date: Wed Dec 4 09:56:38 2002

Message:
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From:
To:
Date: Wed Dec 4 10:00:39 2002

Message:
So fucking what?

From:
To:
Date: Wed Dec 4 11:18:12 2002

Message:
From: om/cf 
To: Marie 
Date: Sat Nov 23 00:32:42 2002 
Message:
I'd gladly retreat to the days when gum was a problem and "so 
and so" wouldn't share.

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From: Facts Finder 
To: OM/Cf 
Subject: Chewing gum 
Date: Sat Nov 23 01:34:23 2002 
Message:
Huh? What do you mean, I don't understand. We do not have 
chewing gum here. Heard they want to lift the banned but I 
doubt so. 

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From: Everyman 
To: Facts Finder 
Subject: What?!? No Chewing Gum?? 
Date: Sat Nov 23 03:05:44 2002 
Message:
That's kind of strange.  Too many people leaving it on the 
ground, or what?  (did I miss something here?)

When my eighth grade teacher caught someone chewing gum she 
would draw a circle on the chalkboard & then said 'culprit' 
would have to put the gum on the end of their nose & stand on 
tip toes with their nose in the circle until the end of class.  
Unfortunate for the ones that got caught during roll call!

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From: arafat 
To: followers 
Date: Sat Nov 23 05:28:45 2002 
Message:
does anyone have any razor blades?

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From: Follower 
To: Arafat 
Subject: Blades 
Date: Sat Nov 23 05:34:04 2002 
Message:
Why ? Do you want to shave or slit your throat.

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From: Facts Finder 
To: Everyman 
Subject: Chewing gum 
Date: Sat Nov 23 06:49:11 2002 
Message:
Yes chewing gum was ban more than 10 years ago, but there are 
people who still buy and smuggle in for their own consumtion. 
If go they have to pay a very heavy fine.

At first there were a lot of disagreement to the ban but now 
everyone find that it was the right move, yes chewing gums 
customers are more to the younger generation and they would 
throw it anywhere or stick it in elevator, train doors and etc. 
This has cause a lot of headache for authority. When the gum 
are thrown on the floor after sometime they become black and so 
it destroy the beauty of the pavement. Anyone caught chewing 
gum will be ask to surrender the balance and throw it away. If 
you are caught throwing or sticking the gums anywhere you will 
be charge for vandalising and that can be quite heavy.

Basically, it just a habit, like cigarrette. When I was young I 
use to chew gum too. Now lesser people are chewing. Those that 
still chew are mainly tourists. Yes they will be warn if they 
are caught and their passport will be taken for future 
reference if they are caught again.

Have a wonderful weekend. Peace be with you.

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From: 
To: 
Date: Sat Nov 23 08:36:10 2002 
Message:
BAN ALL RELIGION

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From: Bush 
To: You 
Date: Sat Nov 23 08:42:25 2002 
Message:
Im going to the toilett
and you are with me,if not you are against me!  

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From: Bush 
To: You 
Date: Sat Nov 23 08:44:40 2002 
Message:
Im going to a gaybar
and you are with me,if not you are against me!

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From: Bush 
To: You 
Date: Sat Nov 23 08:46:30 2002 
Message:
Im going to fuck mr Powel
and you are with me,if not you are against me!

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From: Bush 
To: You 
Date: Sat Nov 23 09:00:39 2002 
Message:
Im going to destroy my country
and you are with me,if not you are against me

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From: Bush 
To: You 
Date: Sat Nov 23 09:02:33 2002 
Message:
Im going to destroy the demokracy
and you are with me,if not you are against me!

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From: 
To: 
Subject: NIMRODS 
Date: Sat Nov 23 09:09:39 2002 
Message:
JIMMY CARTER BILL CLINTON TOM DASCHLE  AL GORE

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From: 
To: 
Subject: Nimrods 
Date: Sat Nov 23 09:22:05 2002 
Message:
You just listed the top four problems with the democratic party


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From: om/cf 
To: Fact Finders 
Subject: gum 
Date: Sat Nov 23 09:48:51 2002 
Message:
I thought I read somewhere last week that the law in Singapore 
was changed so gum was available with a doctor's prescription. 
Of coarse in the U.S., the big controversy is the medical use 
of 
marijuana.

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From: sa27 
To: MADDOX 
Date: Sat Nov 23 13:22:06 2002 
Message:
AWWW, that's so sad. You are the typical whiner we have at my 
school. "I need a better computer! come on, it's so important! 
us nerds know exactly what's best for the school." In case you 
can't tell...Americans like football!! High school football 
makes lots of money: add together concessions, admission, and 
merchandise. How can computers make the school money? hmm... 
new 
computers are thousands of dollars, internet access, new 
programs. Seems that computers are more of a drain than a help. 
So, to sum up...take your little weiner out of the floppy 
drive, 
and quit bitching about how jocks get more attention to you. 
Oh, 
and by the way...If you really think that sports don't pay off, 
then simply take a look at Kobe Braynt's house.

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From: Facts Finder 
To: Om/Cf 
Subject: Chewing gum 
Date: Sat Nov 23 15:06:33 2002 
Message:
Yes I heard of it too, but not quite sure of the story. I miss 
that article. I am sure they are not putting back on the 
shelves. Maybe gum for people to exercise their jaw on medical 
purpose.

Like in my case, would you believe I could not open my jaw to 
bite the thickness of a cigarette box, so no hambugrger for me. 
If I were to eat burger, I have to seperately it into 3 
sections, the bread, the meat and the bread again. This was 
cause by the radio therapy. So far doctors have not offer me 
Wrigleys (is this the correct spelling for that famous chewing 
gum?)

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From: North Carolina Gal 
To: om/cf 
Date: Sat Nov 23 16:29:51 2002 
Message:
I wish they would legalize marijuana for medical use here. I 
have Multiple Sclerosis and have heard that it helps, But me 
being the chicken I haven't used it! If it were legal I woud in 
a heartbeat....

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From: om/cf 
To: NC Gal 
Date: Sat Nov 23 17:54:06 2002 
Message:
Good to hear from you. I had no idea you had M.S. A very good 
friend of mine since childhood was diagnosed with M.S. ten 
years 
back and he hasn't tried it either. I've heard marijuana helps 
cancer chemo patients cope with the nausea. Its insane - 
doctors 
will pump all kinds of manufactured narcotic painkillers into 
people but a naturally occuring plant is off limits.

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From: Fact Finder 
To: Om/Cf and NC Gal 
Date: Sat Nov 23 20:13:18 2002 
Message:
Yes nice to hear from you too NC Gal, Sorry to hear that. I 
don't know anything about MS. As for cancer, nowadays they 
inject a certain medicine to help prevent nausea but still some 
people still had that problem. I do not know what the medicine 
is. It might be marijuana. During my chemo treatment, I just 
had very mild nausea no vomitting. Maybe it was my experience 
with Marijuana during my teenage days. I know the doctor would 
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From: Facts Finder 
To: All 
Date: Sat Nov 23 20:26:05 2002 
Message:
Did you guys saw the interview in BBC regarding Iraq. I cannot 
remember their names. You can see the Iraqi minister is trying 
to win support from the world by repeating that the US attack 
on Hiroshima, Nagasaki and vietnam using weapon of mass 
destruction especially those countries that has doubt.

I just hope that the people wathching understand why US have to 
use those weapon? EVeryone should know that after the bombing 
in Japan the world war ended and the world was at peace again.

As for vietnam, I don't think US did use it full force as they 
did in Gulf War. If they did I don't think the Vietcont (North 
Vietnam) stand a chance. US was fighting with their hand tied 
and they learn from that mistake.

I just hope the media play a more responsible role before 
allowing that kind of statement to be made. You can see that 
the Iraqi minister was laughing behind.

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From: u |<now who 
To: NC GAL 
Date: Sat Nov 23 23:28:47 2002 
Message:
things are about to get scary on the board, are u in for the 
long hall? tell me what scares you?

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From: 
To: u |<now who 
Date: Sun Nov 24 00:57:15 2002 
Message:
WooooooOoooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo

So much power
A messege bord
What a little boy

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From: u turn 
To: u/<now who 
Date: Sun Nov 24 05:58:12 2002 
Message:
Student loan people are the scariest people on earth.       
       

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From: Comment 
To: Facts Finder 
Subject: Media 
Date: Sun Nov 24 07:53:50 2002 
Message:
In regards to what you here on the media , I wouldn't put too 
much faith in their ability to use discretion. The fact is they 
will do anything to promote good ratings. You have to keep in 
mind that CNN is a very liberal cable news network and FOX is 
conservitive but either one of them would do anything for 
ratings. Thw truth lies somewhere in between these two media 
giants.

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From: 
To: 
Date: Sun Nov 24 09:30:55 2002 
Message:
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eee!!

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To: 
Date: Sun Nov 24 09:32:18 2002 
Message:
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hhhhh!

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Date: Sun Nov 24 09:42:16 2002 
Message:
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From: Void 
To: 
Date: Sun Nov 24 09:35:42 2002 
Message:
thousands of years ago stargate technology of the Gods was 
lost. 
Mayan Prophecy says it will return by 2012, along with our 
alignment with the center of our galaxy, the secret missing 
library of jesus, and the Exotic Elixer.

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From: A Pissed of American 
To: 
Date: Wed Nov 21 00:11:31 2001 
Message:
Didnt you ever notice that all terroists come from that shit 
hole they call the middle east. Maybe not all of them but a 
lot. If you dont want to go kick the shit out of them 
sandmonkeys then you crazy. We have so much power. Just go over 
there and drop a ouple of h-boimbs and stuff and then our 
problem is sovled. So the people that we wont stand for any of 
their bullshit antics. It might also set an example for anyone 
else who might want to pull some stupid ass stunt like this

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From: 
To: 
Date: Sun Nov 24 11:37:15 2002 
Message:
dfgdfgdgdfgdfgdfgdfgdfgdfgdfgdgdfgdgdfgfdg

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From: Facts Finder 
To: Comments 
Date: Sun Nov 24 12:04:00 2002 
Message:
yes I do agree, I don't really put much attenction to the 
media, CNN, BBC and etc. I view situation around the world with 
my own eyes, ears and understanding. Sometime I do feel tha 
maybe the western media was a little against the Muslims but 
with actual facts and figure. I can relized


But what I know for sure is that the Western media have not 
call for death to the Muslims or whatever to retaliate the 
killing of innocent civllians.

I would appreciate if some muslim would give me a reason what 
what is happening around the world today.


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From: Walter 
To: A Pissed of American 
Date: Sun Nov 24 13:58:38 2002 
Message:
Great!Now,have you joined the military yet?Or are you planning 
to go over there on your own?Please let us all know,because I'm 
sure you're not just sitting on your ASS,and telling others 
what 
THEY should do.
 

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From: Get a grip 
To: Walter 
Date: Sun Nov 24 14:35:04 2002 
Message:
Just a couple of H-Bombs... that's all, LOL!
  We have new ones that only kill sandmonkeys now! They have a 
x-
factor that can zero in on just the terrorists, and miss all 
the 
others. Just a little expensive considering. 

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From: Get a grip 
To: Facts Finder 
Date: Sun Nov 24 14:40:30 2002 
Message:
Muslims giving reason for what they 

From:
To:
Date: Wed Dec 4 11:52:06 2002

Message:
So fucking what?

From: Get a grip
To:
Subject: Truth stranger than fiction
Date: Wed Dec 4 12:52:56 2002

Message:
BOSTON   Thousands of newly released personnel files show that 
the Archdiocese of Boston went to great lengths to hide priests 
accused of abuse, including clergy who allegedly snorted cocaine 
and had sex with girls aspiring to be nuns.

  
 
 
 
The first round of the documents   roughly 3,000 pages on eight 
Roman Catholic priests   were made public Tuesday on a Superior 
Court order. They had previously been obtained by victims' 
lawyers. 

The records included allegations that clergy sexually abused 
teenage girls and used cocaine and other drugs, and that one led 
a "double life" by carrying on an affair with a female 
parishioner.

Many of the priests whose files were released are not among the 
400 clergy members targeted in the dozens of lawsuits against 
the archdiocese. But attorneys for plaintiffs hope the documents 
show the archdiocese had a habit of transferring priests to 
other parishes even after accusations of child abuse.

"There has been no other archdiocese where the extent of the 
problem has been so clearly identified," said David Clohessy, 
national director of Survivors Network of Those Abused by 
Priests, or SNAP.

One of the eight priests, Robert M. Burns, had a history of 
sexual abuse before he came to Boston from the diocese in 
Youngstown, Ohio, the papers revealed. He was asked to serve in 
Boston in 1982 as he concluded a year of treatment for child 
molestation at a church facility.

Then-Cardinal Humberto S. Medeiros and at least two of his top 
aides   Bishop Alfred C. Hughes and Thomas V. Daily   knew of 
Burns' history, but still assigned him to a parish where he 
would have contact with children, the documents said.

The files also indicate that Cardinal Bernard F. Law, after 
establishing regulations in 1993 to deal with abusive priests, 
continued to assign accused priests to active duty.

"Some of the information contained in those documents is truly 
horrible," said archdiocese spokeswoman Donna M. Morrissey, who 
said she could not comment on the specific allegations. "We're 
committed to helping any and all survivors."

In the late 1960s, the Rev. Robert V. Meffan allegedly recruited 
girls to become nuns and then sexually abused them, according to 
1993 letters from Sister Catherine E. Mulkerrin to her boss, the 
Rev. John B. McCormack, who was a top aide to Law. Meffan 
allegedly would counsel the girls to perform sexual acts as a 
way of progressing with their religious studies.

Meffan allegedly engaged in sexual acts with four girls in a 
Cape Cod rental, one of the girls told Mulkerrin, according to 
the 1993 memo.

"They were all young girls planning to be nuns," said attorney 
Roderick MacLeish Jr., who represents 247 plaintiffs suing the 
archdiocese.

Meffan told The Boston Globe the allegations in the documents 
were true, and that he still believed his sexual relationships 
with the teenage girls were "beautiful" and "spiritual," and 
were intended to bring them closer to God.

"What I was trying to show them is that Christ is human, and you 
should love him as a human being," said Meffan. "I felt that by 
having this little bit of intimacy with them that this is what 
it would be like with Christ."

The Rev. Thomas P. Forry allegedly built a house on Cape Cod for 
a woman with whom he carried on an 11-year affair, the documents 
showed. The woman had gone to him seeking advice because of 
problems in her marriage. The woman's son later alleged that 
Forry made sexual advances on him.

A 1992 memo from Mulkerrin to McCormack, currently the bishop in 
Manchester, N.H., outlined the history of allegations against 
Forry. Seven years later, Law reassigned Forry, then a prison 
chaplain, to a job as a roaming, fill-in priest to cover for 
priests on vacation. He is currently unassigned.

An unidentified man who answered the door at Forry's home in 
South Boston dismissed the abuse allegations.

Plaintiffs' attorneys and victims advocates say the documents 
show that Law continued to transfer problem priests until 
recently.

"It's not ancient history, it's very, very recent," Clohessy 
said.

The archdiocese earlier this year adopted a much tougher 
standard.

"We have a policy that no priest with a single credible 
allegation of abuse of a child will hold any position in the 
Archdiocese of Boston," Morrissey said. "It's a policy we wish 
we had for the past 50 years."

The Rev. Richard A. Buntel, who served in Malden, Mass., from 
1978 to 1983, allegedly had sex with boys and used cocaine with 
them. Mulkerrin, in a memo to McCormack, said an alleged victim 
told her that Buntel provided him with cocaine when he was 15.

"He would snort it in the priest's room 'every time I went' and, 
in a way, it seemed like an exchange for sex which also happened 
every time," Mulkerrin wrote.

As of this year, Buntel was employed in a non-ministerial 
position at St. Thomas of Villanova parish in Wilmington. Phone 
messages left with the parish were not returned Tuesday night.

From:
To: Get a grop
Date: Wed Dec 4 13:18:16 2002

Message:
Constitutional Amendments 1-10: The Bill of Rights

Note: The following text is a transcription of the first 10 
amendments to the Constitution in their original form. These 
amendments were ratified December 15, 1791, and form what is 
known as the "Bill of Rights."


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Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of 
religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or 
abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right 
of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the 
Government for a redress of grievances.


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Amendment II

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a 
free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, 
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Amendment III

No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, 
without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a 
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Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, 
papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and 
seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, 
but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and 
particularly describing the place to be searched, and the 
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Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise 
infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a 
Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval 
forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of 
War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the 
same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor 
shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against 
himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without 
due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for 
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Amendment VI

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right 
to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State 
and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which 
district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to 
be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be 
confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory 
process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the 
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Amendment VII

In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall 
exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be 
preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise 
reexamined in any Court of the United States, than according to 
the rules of the common law.


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Amendment VIII

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines 
imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.


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Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall 
not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the 
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Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the 
Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved 
to the States respectively, or to the people.

Amendments 11-27


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From:
To: Get a Grop
Subject: here's the rest
Date: Wed Dec 4 13:21:24 2002

Message:
AMENDMENT XI

Passed by Congress March 4, 1794. Ratified February 7, 1795.

Note: Article III, section 2, of the Constitution was modified 
by amendment 11.

The Judicial power of the United States shall not be construed 
to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted 
against one of the United States by Citizens of another State, 
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AMENDMENT XII 
Passed by Congress December 9, 1803. Ratified June 15, 1804.

Note: A portion of Article II, section 1 of the Constitution 
was superseded by the 12th amendment.

The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by 
ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, 
shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; 
they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as 
President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-
President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons 
voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-
President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists 
they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of 
the government of the United States, directed to the President 
of the Senate; -- the President of the Senate shall, in the 
presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all 
the certificates and the votes shall then be counted; -- The 
person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall 
be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole 
number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such 
majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not 
exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, 
the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by 
ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes 
shall be taken by states, the representation from each state 
having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a 
member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority 
of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. [And if the 
House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever 
the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth 
day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act 
as President, as in case of the death or other constitutional 
disability of the President. --]* The person having the 
greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-
President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of 
Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from 
the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose 
the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of 
two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of 
the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person 
constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be 
eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

*Superseded by section 3 of the 20th amendment.


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AMENDMENT XIII 
Passed by Congress January 31, 1865. Ratified December 6, 1865.

Note: A portion of Article IV, section 2, of the Constitution 
was superseded by the 13th amendment.

Section 1.
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a 
punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly 
convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place 
subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2.
Congress shall have power to enforce this article by 
appropriate legislation.


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AMENDMENT XIV 
Passed by Congress June 13, 1866. Ratified July 9, 1868.

Note: Article I, section 2, of the Constitution was modified by 
section 2 of the 14th amendment.

Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and 
subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United 
States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall 
make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or 
immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any 
State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without 
due process of law; nor deny to any person within its 
jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Section 2.
Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States 
according to their respective numbers, counting the whole 
number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. 
But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of 
electors for President and Vice-President of the United States, 
Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial 
officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, 
is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being 
twenty-one years of age,* and citizens of the United States, or 
in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or 
other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be 
reduced in the proportion which the number of such male 
citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-
one years of age in such State.

Section 3.
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or 
elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, 
civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, 
who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, 
or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any 
State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of 
any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, 
shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the 
same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But 
Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such 
disability.

Section 4.
The validity of the public debt of the United States, 
authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of 
pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection 
or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United 
States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation 
incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United 
States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; 
but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held 
illegal and void.

Section 5.
The Congress shall have the power to enforce, by appropriate 
legislation, the provisions of this article.

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AMENDMENT XV 
Passed by Congress February 26, 1869. Ratified February 3, 1870.

Section 1.
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be 
denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on 
account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude--

Section 2.
The Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by 
appropriate legislation.


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AMENDMENT XVIPassed by Congress July 2, 1909. Ratified February 
3, 1913.
Note: Article I, section 9, of the Constitution was modified by 
amendment 16.

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on 
incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment 
among the several States, and without regard to any census or 
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AMENDMENT XVII 
Passed by Congress May 13, 1912. Ratified April 8, 1913.

Note: Article I, section 3, of the Constitution was modified by 
the 17th amendment.

The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two 
Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof, for 
six years; and each Senator shall have one vote. The electors 
in each State shall have the qualifications requisite for 
electors of the most numerous branch of the State legislatures.

When vacancies happen in the representation of any State in the 
Senate, the executive authority of such State shall issue writs 
of election to fill such vacancies: Provided, That the 
legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to 
make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies 
by election as the legislature may direct.

This amendment shall not be so construed as to affect the 
election or term of any Senator chosen before it becomes valid 
as part of the Constitution.



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AMENDMENT XVIII 
Passed by Congress December 18, 1917. Ratified January 16, 
1919. Repealed by amendment 21.

Section 1.
After one year from the ratification of this article the 
manufacture, sale, or transportation of intoxicating liquors 
within, the importation thereof into, or the exportation 
thereof from the United States and all territory subject to the 
jurisdiction thereof for beverage purposes is hereby prohibited.

Section 2.
The Congress and the several States shall have concurrent power 
to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

Section 3.
This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been 
ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the 
legislatures of the several States, as provided in the 
Constitution, within seven years from the date of the 
submission hereof to the States by the Congress.



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AMENDMENT XIX 
Passed by Congress June 4, 1919. Ratified August 18, 1920.

The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be 
denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on 
account of sex.

Congress shall have power to enforce this article by 
appropriate legislation.



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AMENDMENT XX 
Passed by Congress March 2, 1932. Ratified January 23, 1933.

Note: Article I, section 4, of the Constitution was modified by 
section 2 of this amendment. In addition, a portion of the 12th 
amendment was superseded by section 3.

Section 1.
The terms of the President and the Vice President shall end at 
noon on the 20th day of January, and the terms of Senators and 
Representatives at noon on the 3d day of January, of the years 
in which such terms would have ended if this article had not 
been ratified; and the terms of their successors shall then 
begin.

Section 2.
The Congress shall assemble at least once in every year, and 
such meeting shall begin at noon on the 3d day of January, 
unless they shall by law appoint a different day.

Section 3.
If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the 
President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice 
President elect shall become President. If a President shall 
not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of 
his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to 
qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President 
until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by 
law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor 
a Vice President shall have qualified, declaring who shall then 
act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act 
shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until 
a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

Section 4.
The Congress may by law provide for the case of the death of 
any of the persons from whom the House of Representatives may 
choose a President whenever the right of choice shall have 
devolved upon them, and for the case of the death of any of the 
persons from whom the Senate may choose a Vice President 
whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them.

Section 5.
Sections 1 and 2 shall take effect on the 15th day of October 
following the ratification of this article.

Section 6.
This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been 
ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the 
legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within 
seven years from the date of its submission.


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AMENDMENT XXI 
Passed by Congress February 20, 1933. Ratified December 5, 1933.

Section 1.
The eighteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the 
United States is hereby repealed.

Section 2.
The transportation or importation into any State, Territory, or 
Possession of the United States for delivery or use therein of 
intoxicating liquors, in violation of the laws thereof, is 
hereby prohibited.

Section 3.
This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been 
ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by conventions in 
the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within 
seven years from the date of the submission hereof to the 
States by the Congress.


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AMENDMENT XXII 
Passed by Congress March 21, 1947. Ratified February 27, 1951.

Section 1.
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more 
than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, 
or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to 
which some other person was elected President shall be elected 
to the office of President more than once. But this Article 
shall not apply to any person holding the office of President 
when this Article was proposed by Congress, and shall not 
prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, 
or acting as President, during the term within which this 
Article becomes operative from holding the office of President 
or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

Section 2.
This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been 
ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the 
legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within 
seven years from the date of its submission to the States by 
the Congress.


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AMENDMENT XXIII 
Passed by Congress June 16, 1960. Ratified March 29, 1961.

Section 1.
The District constituting the seat of Government of the United 
States shall appoint in such manner as Congress may direct:

A number of electors of President and Vice President equal to 
the whole number of Senators and Representatives in Congress to 
which the District would be entitled if it were a State, but in 
no event more than the least populous State; they shall be in 
addition to those appointed by the States, but they shall be 
considered, for the purposes of the election of President and 
Vice President, to be electors appointed by a State; and they 
shall meet in the District and perform such duties as provided 
by the twelfth article of amendment.

Section 2.
The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by 
appropriate legislation.



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AMENDMENT XXIV 
Passed by Congress August 27, 1962. Ratified January 23, 1964.

Section 1.
The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any 
primary or other election for President or Vice President, for 
electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or 
Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by 
the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay poll 
tax or other tax.

Section 2.
The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by 
appropriate legislation.


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AMENDMENT XXV 
Passed by Congress July 6, 1965. Ratified February 10, 1967.

Note: Article II, section 1, of the Constitution was affected 
by the 25th amendment.

Section 1.
In case of the removal of the President from office or of his 
death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

Section 2.
Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice 
President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who 
shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both 
Houses of Congress.

Section 3.
Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore 
of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives 
his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the 
powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them 
a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties 
shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.

Section 4.
Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the 
principal officers of the executive departments or of such 
other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the 
President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the 
House of Representatives their written declaration that the 
President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his 
office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers 
and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro 
tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of 
Representatives his written declaration that no inability 
exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office 
unless the Vice President and a majority of either the 
principal officers of the executive department or of such other 
body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days 
to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of 
the House of Representatives their written declaration that the 
President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his 
office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling 
within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If 
the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the 
latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, 
within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, 
determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President 
is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the 
Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting 
President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and 
duties of his office.


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AMENDMENT XXVI 
Passed by Congress March 23, 1971. Ratified July 1, 1971.

Note: Amendment 14, section 2, of the Constitution was modified 
by section 1 of the 26th amendment.

Section 1.
The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen 
years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged 
by the United States or by any State on account of age.

Section 2.
The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by 
appropriate legislation.


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AMENDMENT XXVII 

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Date: Wed Dec 4 15:18:28 2002

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Date: Wed Dec 4 15:37:32 2002

Message:
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Date: Wed Dec 4 15:52:46 2002

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Date: Wed Dec 4 15:52:46 2002

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Date: Wed Dec 4 16:20:06 2002

Message:
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From: Walter
To: U know who
Subject: Your dead mother
Date: Wed Dec 4 16:26:02 2002

Message:
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From:
To:
Date: Wed Dec 4 16:30:10 2002

Message:
SEATTLE   A second Catholic priest in a week has resigned from 
active ministry amid accusations that he molested a boy decades 
ago, the Archdiocese of Seattle announced late Friday. 

  
 
 
 
Archbishop Alex Brunett accepted the Rev. Dennis V. Champagne's 
resignation on Thursday, a day after the priest was placed on 
administrative leave as archdiocese officials investigated fresh 
details about the allegation. 

Champagne, 57, has been co-pastor of St. John Bosco Church in 
Lakewood and at Immaculate Conception Church in Steilacoom, both 
in Pierce County, and was former pastor of St. Michael's parish 
in Snohomish, the archdiocese said. 

Champagne was first investigated in 1986, after a priest wrote a 
letter to then-Archbishop Raymond Hunthausen saying he had been 
told that Champagne had molested a boy in 1979 while serving as 
pastor at St. Michael's. 

The boy was not identified in the 1986 letter. Then, last week, 
a man called the archdiocese, said he was the subject of that 
complaint and expanded on the allegation. 

A call for comment placed to Champagne's parish was not 
immediately returned late Friday. Archdiocese spokesman Bill 
Gallant said he could not provide any comment on behalf of 
Champagne. 

Champagne's resignation came a week after the archdiocese 
announced that it had removed the Rev. John Cornelius from 
active ministry following accusations from at least a dozen men 
who said he had abused them decades ago. 

Cornelius also offered his resignation and said he 
acknowledged "responsibility for my failures."

From:
To:
Date: Wed Dec 4 16:30:25 2002

Message:
DETROIT   America's Roman Catholic bishops spent the past week 
meeting with priests, recruiting parishioners for review boards 
and taking sex abusers off the job as they started implementing 
their ambitious policy to end the church's molestation crisis. 

  
 
 
 
Yet even as Catholic leaders began to clean house, outside 
pressure from law enforcement authorities was building. 

Some bishops returned home from the Dallas summit where the 
policy was approved and promptly went beyond the action plan, 
which requires bishops to remove abusive priests from public 
ministry. 

The 10 bishops of Minnesota and the Dakotas said they will hire 
an outside auditor to review whether they're in compliance with 
the policy. Archbishop Patrick Flores of San Antonio pledged to 
not only oust molesters from parish duty but also to the Vatican 
to defrock all of them -- which is optional. 

"I brought back a sense of urgency from the meeting and I think 
most bishops did also," said Bishop William Lori of Bridgeport, 
Conn., one of the eight prelates who drafted the policy. 

Civil authorities also stepped up their investigation of abuse 
in the church. 

Prosecutors began reviewing the cases of 15 priests accused of 
abuse in San Diego County. Massachusetts became the ninth state 
with grand juries investigating clerical molestation. And a 
judge unsealed court files on how the Joliet, Ill., Diocese 
handled claims against its clergy. The files show Bishop Joseph 
Imesch, believed to be the first bishop to publicly suggest 
Boston Cardinal Bernard Law resign for his handing of priests 
accused of abuse, had himself moved an accused priest to a new 
parish. Imesch said the diocese is cooperating with authorities. 

Lawyers representing alleged victims took a new approach, too. 
Attorney Jeff Anderson said he will try to reopen a high-profile 
Cleveland case by arguing that the diocese's failure to tell 
civil authorities about claims against the Rev. Carl Wernet, who 
died years ago, voided the statute of limitations. Eight women 
say Wernet abused them when they were children. 

Anderson expects to file many more lawsuits. 

"We've seen dozens of victims every single day, people who are 
ready to come forward for the first time," he said. 

The bishops' Charter for the Protection of Children and Young 
People was adopted June 14 at a tumultuous meeting forced by 
months of scandal in which at least 250 priests have resigned or 
been suspended because of misconduct claims. 

For some dioceses, implementing the policy has been as 
straightforward as adding a few parishioners to review boards 
created years ago, and hiring someone to coordinate support for 
victims. Under the plan, the boards must be composed primarily 
of lay people to look at abuse complaints and assess the 
dioceses' response. 

Cardinal Roger Mahony of Los Angeles revamped his archdiocese's 
misconduct review panel and appointed parents of four alleged 
victims. 

The process has been more complex in dioceses where abusive 
priests were still serving and had to be ousted. Bishop James 
Timlin of Scranton, Pa., said he was reluctantly suspending four 
or five priests who had received treatment and had been working 
in jobs where they had no contact with children. 

"It is very hard for me to do this," Timlin said. "I was looking 
for a more humane, charitable, compassionate approach." 

Some parishioners also protested. Members of Holy Angels Church 
in Chicago have pleaded with Cardinal Francis George to let them 
keep the Rev. John Calicott, believed to have abused two boys 
years ago. The late Cardinal Joseph Bernardin had reinstated 
Calicott in the mid-1990s after clinicians said he posed "no 
significant risk" if he continued therapy. 

"The parish is grieving," Holy Angels member Tony Vales said. 

Polls taken this past week also show Catholics' conflicting 
response to the policy. 

A survey by The Washington Post found three-fourths of Catholics 
felt the bishops' guidelines didn't go far enough. But a 
separate poll by LeMoyne College in Syracuse, N.Y., and the 
research firm Zogby International found 79 percent of Catholics 
endorsed the policy. 

Some had complained that the plan contained no means to 
discipline bishops who fail to comply. Only the Vatican can 
force a bishop to resign. Bishop Thomas Tobin of Youngstown, 
Ohio, said Monday he hoped the church would create a new, 
regional discipline system for bishops. 

The bishops did create a new national commission that will 
monitor dioceses' compliance. Oklahoma Gov. Frank Keating, head 
of that board, met with the two other leaders of the panel for 
the first time Friday. 

The policy was intended to be mandatory, but Vatican approval is 
needed to make the document binding -- and that could take weeks 
or longer. Still, bishops said they considered the plan 
effective immediately. 

Lori said that when he returned from Dallas, "I hit the ground 
running." 

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Date: Wed Dec 4 16:31:41 2002

Message:
DALLAS   America's Roman Catholic bishops adopted a plan Friday 
that will strip predator priests of their authority, but not 
automatically oust them from the priesthood.

  
 
 
 
The national policy is intended to be binding on 178 mainstream 
dioceses, representing a major shift from the voluntary 
discipline guidelines the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops 
has followed for years. For the policy to be binding, the 
bishops will need Vatican approval. 

The prelates stood and applauded after the policy was approved 
on a 239-13 vote. 

"From this day forward no one known to have sexually abused a 
child will work in the Catholic church in the United States," 
said Bishop Wilton Gregory, the conference president. He 
apologized for "our tragically slow response in recognizing the 
horror" of sexual abuse. 

The change means that abusive priests   both past and future   
will technically remain priests, but they will be barred from 
any work connected to the church   from celebrating Mass to 
teaching in a parochial school to serving in a Catholic soup 
kitchen, according to Cardinal Theodore McCarrick of Washington.

According to the revised plan, predator priests could still be 
defrocked, but it would be up to the bishop, acting on the 
advice of an advisory board comprised mainly of lay people. 

Prior to the vote, McCarrick said he believed bishops were 
divided between those who wanted to automatically remove abusers 
and those who felt some exceptions should be made to avoid 
punishing elderly priests for allegations that in some cases 
date back decades. 

"The majority of these men are in their 60s, 70s and 80s," he 
said. 

The shift further away from so-called "zero tolerance," under 
which abusers would have been removed from the priesthood, 
became clear during debate. It represented a significant shift 
from the original draft of the plan released last week. 

Salt Lake City Bishop George Niederauer, a member of the 
committee that came up with the draft plan, said he felt the 
plan would still protect children. 

Victims were outraged. "This is akin to telling a street killer 
in the city we're sending you to the country," said Mark Serrano 
of the Survivors Network of Those Abused by Priests. "They will 
find children to prey upon." 

Two-thirds of the nation's 284 active bishops   190 clerics   
must approve the document for it to pass, according to Monsignor 
William Fay, general secretary of the bishops' conference. 
They'll vote by secret paper ballot. 

Catholic leaders are struggling to ease a scandal that has seen 
the dismissal or resignation of 250 accused priests since 
January. Four bishops have also stepped down, and the church has 
been hit with 300 lawsuits from victims. 

"This is a defining moment for us this morning as bishops," 
Archbishop Harry Flynn, head of the committee that drafted the 
policy, said as he opened the debate. "A moment for us to 
declare our resolve once and for all ... to root out a cancer in 
our church." 

The bishops would ask the Vatican to approve key parts of the 
plan so they would become binding law in the United States 
church. Vatican officials had indicated resistance to zero 
tolerance   removing all abusive priests from the clergy. 

Asked about the bishops' sex abuse policy Friday, a Vatican 
spokesman, the Rev. Ciro Benedettini, said there was no 
immediate comment but that the Vatican would review it. 

There is no indication of how long it might take the Vatican to 
review the policy, since several offices at the Holy See would 
be involved in scrutinizing it. 

Another element of the proposal before the bishops would 
prohibit dioceses from signing confidentiality agreements with 
victims in civil lawsuits over sex abuse, unless the victim 
insists. 

Bishops would also report all claims of sexual abuse of a minor 
to public authorities. Bishop Wilton Gregory, the president of 
the bishops' conference, acknowledged Thursday that prelates in 
many cases had failed to report such allegations to law 
enforcement. 

The plan would also set up diocesan review boards to look at 
complaints and assess the diocese's response. The boards would 
be made up primarily of lay people. 

As the meeting opened Thursday, Gregory bluntly acknowledged 
that bishops' mistakes helped cause the scandal. 

"We are the ones who chose not to report the criminal actions of 
priests to the authorities, because the law did not require 
this," he said. "We are the ones who worried more about the 
possibility of scandal than in bringing about the kind of 
openness that helps prevent abuse." 

Bishops also heard victims tell how pain permeated their lives. 
Michael Bland of Chicago told of joining the priesthood but 
leaving after trying to persuade church leaders to take action 
against his molester. 

"The priesthood lost me but kept the perpetrator," said Bland, a 
psychologist who works with victims in the Chicago Archdiocese. 

Gregory once again told victims he was sorry for the pain they 
suffered, and further asked forgiveness from the "faithful 
priests" whose reputations have been marred by the misconduct of 
a few. He also asked bishops who were guilty of abuse to turn 
themselves in to Vatican authorities. 

After the bishops approve the reform policy Friday, they may 
take up a second document, listing "norms" or key provisions 
that affect church law in America. 

It's those documents that would require Vatican approval to 
become binding on all U.S. dioceses since each bishop answers to 
Rome, not the bishops' conference. Otherwise, the policy would 
remain a mere gentlemen's agreement. 

Flynn said there was no time this week to prepare a third 
document that would spell out details on ousting priests. That 
will wait until the bishops' November meeting, he said. 

Victims and independent caucuses meeting here have pressed for a 
further, radical demand -- that U.S. church leaders lobby Rome 
to remove bishops who kept abusive clergy on duty while ignoring 
warnings. 

The revised policy under debate did not include that idea. 


From:
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Date: Wed Dec 4 16:32:12 2002

Message:
DALLAS   Roman Catholic leaders in 111 of the nation's 178 
mainstream dioceses have allowed priests, religious brothers and 
lay employees accused of sex abuse to keep working, The Dallas 
Morning News reported Wednesday. 

  
 
 
 
Bishops ignored warnings about suspicious behavior and allowed 
priests to continue to serve after diagnoses of sexual 
disorders, legal settlements and criminal convictions, and in 
some cases after the clergyman admitted the wrongdoing, the 
newspaper reported. 

The findings come from the paper's three-month review of 
national databases containing published reports, court records 
and church records obtained in litigation. 

The newspaper also conducted dozens of interviews with 
attorneys, law enforcement authorities and others. The survey 
did not include Eastern-rite Catholic dioceses in the United 
States. 

American church leaders did not dispute the results of the 
study, but questioned its relevance to the current crisis. The 
newspaper reviewed priestly misconduct dating back years   
sometimes decades   when less was known about sex offenders, and 
physicians thought clergymen could return to work after 
undergoing treatment, the bishops said. 

"I would be saddened and very much shocked if there are still 
bishops so caught up in the old way that they can't see a new 
way," said Bishop Joseph Galante, the coadjutor of the Dallas 
Diocese who is helping draft a new national abuse policy. 

However, the paper reported that several bishops allowed accused 
priests to continue to serve into the 1990s. The paper cited an 
example in Alexandria, La., where Bishop Sam Jacobs returned the 
Rev. John Andries to a parish after Andries was accused of 
misconduct in 1998. By last year, Andries was in trouble again, 
criminally charged with molesting a sleeping boy. 

The Rev. Thomas Doyle, one of the authors of a 1985 sex abuse 
report for U.S. bishops, said he thought the numbers in the 
News' study were low. But he said, the results point to a 
problem so pervasive that "the bishops don't know how to fix it."

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Date: Wed Dec 4 16:32:44 2002

Message:
BOSTON    An extraordinary procession of high-ranking church 
officials will answer questions under oath beginning Monday in 
two of the nation's most high-profile cases of priests accused 
of abusing children. 

  
 
 
 
Cardinal Bernard Law and three bishops who once served as Law's 
subordinates in the Archdiocese of Boston are scheduled to give 
depositions to lawyers representing the priests' alleged 
victims. 

The depositions are likely to sharpen the already intense 
scrutiny into the inner workings of the church, said Georgetown 
University Professor Chester Gillis, author of ``Roman 
Catholicism in America.'' 

``Depending on how the depositions are handled, that could 
inflict further wounds or be part of the healing process,'' he 
said. 

High-ranking church officials have been deposed in the past   
including Law last month. But Gillis said the number of 
prominent officials and the publicity surrounding the cases make 
the upcoming depositions unusual. 

Bishop John McCormack of Manchester, N.H., is scheduled to be 
questioned Monday by attorney Roderick MacLeish in the case of 
the retired Rev. Paul Shanley. Shanley faces criminal charges 
for raping one boy during the 1980s and is accused in a civil 
suit of raping another. 

McCormack, who was director of ministerial personnel in the 
Boston archdiocese from 1984 to 1994, has been accused in 
lawsuits of knowing priests were abusing boys and failing to 
intervene. 

On Tuesday, Bishop Robert Banks of Green Bay, Wis., is scheduled 
to be deposed by attorney Mitchell Garabedian, who represents 86 
alleged victims of defrocked priest and convicted child molester 
John Geoghan. Banks served as auxiliary bishop under Law, and 
became Green Bay bishop 11 years ago. 

Law is scheduled to be deposed in the Shanley case on Wednesday 
and Friday. He answered questions last month about Geoghan. 

The following week, New York Bishop Thomas Dailey, a former 
chancellor of the Boston archdiocese, and David W. Smith, 
chancellor for the Boston archdiocese, are both scheduled for 
depositions. 

The Rev. Christopher Coyne, spokesman for the Archdiocese of 
Boston, said the depositions are painful, but necessary. 

``The fact is that because of the past things that we've done 
and our failure to take care of business in the way that we 
should have, we have brought this on,'' he said. 

At a hearing Friday, a judge cautioned attorneys on both sides 
to behave during the upcoming questioning of Law and McCormack. 
MacLeish had complained about conduct of church lawyers during a 
recent deposition. 

Law's earlier deposition in the Geoghan case sparked controversy 
because the transcript was released by the court after the first 
day of questioning, which a judge called improper. 

Boston defense attorney J. Albert Johnson criticized the alleged 
victims' attorneys, saying they had turned the cases into ``a 
dog and pony show'' by publicizing their allegations and 
deposition details. He said the publicity would taint future 
jury pools. 

The depositions come near the June 13 start of the U.S. 
Conference of Catholic Bishops meeting in Dallas, when bishops 
plan to hammer out a nationwide policy on sexual abuse. A draft 
of the policy is expected to be released before the meeting. 

Coyne said he had not seen a draft. He said bishops may look to 
Boston for leadership, but said consensus had not been reached 
on the issues of mandatory reporting and zero tolerance. 

``While Boston can bring a level of experience that other 
dioceses have not had, there is certainly going to be a lively 
discussion,'' he said. 


From:
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Date: Wed Dec 4 16:33:18 2002

Message:
Second Priest in Week Resigns Amid Molestation Accusations  
 
 
   
 
   
 
 
Friday, May 31, 2002
 
SEATTLE   A second Catholic priest in a week has resigned from 
active ministry amid accusations that he molested a boy decades 
ago, the Archdiocese of Seattle announced late Friday. 

  
 
 
 
Archbishop Alex Brunett accepted the Rev. Dennis V. Champagne's 
resignation on Thursday, a day after the priest was placed on 
administrative leave as archdiocese officials investigated fresh 
details about the allegation. 

Champagne, 57, has been co-pastor of St. John Bosco Church in 
Lakewood and at Immaculate Conception Church in Steilacoom, both 
in Pierce County, and was former pastor of St. Michael's parish 
in Snohomish, the archdiocese said. 

Champagne was first investigated in 1986, after a priest wrote a 
letter to then-Archbishop Raymond Hunthausen saying he had been 
told that Champagne had molested a boy in 1979 while serving as 
pastor at St. Michael's. 

The boy was not identified in the 1986 letter. Then, last week, 
a man called the archdiocese, said he was the subject of that 
complaint and expanded on the allegation. 

A call for comment placed to Champagne's parish was not 
immediately returned late Friday. Archdiocese spokesman Bill 
Gallant said he could not provide any comment on behalf of 
Champagne. 

Champagne's resignation came a week after the archdiocese 
announced that it had removed the Rev. John Cornelius from 
active ministry following accusations from at least a dozen men 
who said he had abused them decades ago. 

Cornelius also offered his resignation and said he 
acknowledged "responsibility for my failures."
 
 
 

From:
To:
Date: Wed Dec 4 16:34:01 2002

Message:
Pisses you off when some one spams the board, isnt that funny? 

From:
To: U know who
Date: Wed Dec 4 16:34:41 2002

Message:
You could print it all out and shove it up your ass, isn't that 
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From: URANUS
To: get a grip
Date: Wed Dec 4 16:31:19 2002

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UR A ANUS

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Date: Wed Dec 4 16:35:30 2002

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Googlism for: get a grip

get a grip is dedicated to the memory of
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frontier of educational possibility
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your life
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get a grip is printed on
get a grip is a youth leadership and traffic safety program 
dedicated to developing leadership skills of high school age 
students
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world
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tailored to the needs of youth workers
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harmonies
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sport by holding and
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trilogy
get a grip is amye s personal story
get a grip is a colored velcro strap that allows you to wrap up 
the cables easily
get a grip is a far cry from the band's celebrated '70s work
get a grip is released on april 20 and debuts at #1
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iowa state university
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side and "loops" on the bottom side so it attaches to itself
get a grip is the time for you to let go of your body and your 
life
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get a grip is "down the pants" and pull them over
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on sunday mornings
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get a grip is a funk shuffle in 4/4 with the quarter note equal 
to 96 beats per minute
get a grip is certainly not a monumental accomplishment and it 
seems to me that aerosmith really wasn't trying that hard the 
whole time
get a grip is the only thing that comes to mind
get a grip is an annual conference for teams of 14
get a grip is released

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Date: Wed Dec 4 16:41:31 2002

Message:
Googlism for: u know who

u know who is he?
u know who is really cool? she is this korean model named sung 
hi lee
u know who is the owner
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u know who is gonna be on teams n stuff for the 3on3? sounds good
u know who is mystreious guy la? i still don't know leay
u know who is lee
u know who is gandhi?? sure u do
u know who is bolod?? that means a cow who listens to his master 
whatever he says
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u know who is john nash siu him
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u know who is the enemy?
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u know who is insanely cool??? sarah welles
u know who is touring with bsb???? aj's lady
u know who is mdo but i have been a fan of them for many years
u know who is rogi hello i m rogi
u know who is goin
u know who is the service provider for 3
u know who is gonna make me smack him
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u know who is going to play question
u know who is this? i guess not thats ur cuz mel
u know who is hot
u know who is ur customer
u know who is just as smitten
u know who is ur father? re
u know who is the best goolkeeper in this world ? answer
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u know who is on the cover
u know who is this girl with vin? 7
u know who is the boss in them?well it's easy
u know who is siu cheung?who is emily?who is other member? she 
is our member
u know who is interested ???
u know who is interested ??? posted by vsop at 03
u know who is awol
u know who is into uncommercialised rap
u know who is most downloaded
u know who is interested in me
u know who is the best goolkeeper in this world ?
u know who is 0717??? i know
u know who is emailing u
u know who is the band ? i have another question
u know who is posting the stuff warn them as they are fucking 
things up 4 you
u know who is acting in the film produced by lakshmi movie 
makers and directed by vikraman
u know who is the most 8
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u know who is a whore
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u know who is that? flopstar
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u know who is the actor
u know who is dj tieto? if u know
u know who is working on se?how can he tell u that if it's a 
bigsecret? suggested buy a nokia? maybe se is goona break
u know who is the 4th alien in roswell? react_julie
u know who is wife is <greg
u know who is like the coolest gurl? caitlin balthrop
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u know who is he ? ?? when will u post our new photos ?
u know who is on the waiting list

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Date: Wed Dec 4 16:53:37 2002

Message:
Googlism for: merlyn

merlyn is an ex ghostwriter for many major tv shows
merlyn is very much alive and quiet willing to help you express 
your deepest feelings
merlyn is unhappy
merlyn is probably the most frustrating character to analyse in 
there are a couple of episodes and events which seem to 
contradict much of what we know about
merlyn is spelled
merlyn is a masterpiece from the mind of one of the greatest 
writers of the
merlyn is a leader of men
merlyn is now usually a pii/300 pc with windows 98 etc
merlyn is so doggy most of the time
merlyn is a spirit/angel and a guide to help keep caleb on the 
straight and narrow
merlyn is amused by ray's actions
merlyn is talking to caleb again
merlyn is from legends
merlyn is so devoted to weyland he cannot bare to be seperated 
from him
merlyn is back on the earth as a champion of man
merlyn is the story of merlyn kathleen ryan
merlyn is tutor to the young boy wart
merlyn is an autonomous agent that
merlyn is talking to ea he is still seeing blood everywhere and 
merlyn is trying to convince him not to help lucas
merlyn is trapped somewhere bad
merlyn is heading off to the pro tour next month in nice
merlyn is our newest joyful addition to our family
merlyn is a time
merlyn is also written by a scholar of the ancient teachings
merlyn is dedicated to spreading the influence of roman culture 
beyond the colony's borders
merlyn is a registered representative and lifemap  financial 
planner through thrivent investment management inc
merlyn is kept safe in arlow
merlyn is a series of writings which have come down to us as 
attributed through the pen of merlyn
merlyn is a great case in point
merlyn is an autonomous agent that also has an integrated 
personality and emotional model
merlyn is now capable of following "trains of thought" over 
longer spans of time
merlyn is arthur's tutor and friend
merlyn is really $randal
merlyn is fine
merlyn is married to elaine
merlyn is a
merlyn is the larger theatre in the malthouse
merlyn is just as loud and talkative as the siamese i used to 
have
merlyn is both teacher and course
merlyn is a milford native
merlyn is standing at stud
merlyn is lovely was fun seeing you guys at the spring fling and 
seeing pictures of tawny
merlyn is geen substituut voor een behandeling door een arts
merlyn is a corporate executive for an international 
construction firm
merlyn is a male kellen
merlyn is wearing her white dress and high heels
merlyn is a "magical"
merlyn is definitely the weapon of choice for pre
merlyn is in good race
merlyn is the suspicion that it might have been uther who 
brutally beat the waif whom merlyn will name cassandra after she 
violently resists uther's
merlyn is used by children and adults
merlyn is a good friend of mine
merlyn is a `magical` cream liqueur
merlyn is in reality
merlyn is a comfortable and fun combination of gandalf* and 
fizban**
merlyn is a wonderful dog that is very loyal and makes our other 
dogs behave
merlyn is shot by the pirates and patience is shot by sir 
humphrey
merlyn is lured away from arthur by a spirit and arthur is on 
his own
merlyn is doing her trademark hula
merlyn is 44 years old
merlyn is now accepting tour dates for the release of his new cd
merlyn is co
merlyn is stripped of his powers
merlyn is
merlyn is an innovative manager that is constantly looking for 
new opportunities to serve the producer base within his area
merlyn is perched in his usual location behind her shoulder
merlyn is hovering behind darkstar
merlyn is a graduate of the human services program
merlyn is his teacher and that because he is not a good thinker
merlyn is lured away from camelot by the sprightly nimue
merlyn is one of the most devastating books ever foisted onto 
the public in the name of "scholarship"
merlyn is a lighting rod sheltering belgrade
merlyn is such a funny old gentleman
merlyn is a great example of the increasing number of women who 
have chosen new and different occupations
merlyn is that same arthurian character we all know and love
merlyn is a complete introductory course in celtic druidism
merlyn is now custodian of the great dream of independent 
survival in britain
merlyn is a joy to work with
merlyn is far away
merlyn is also the liaison with relo  and she manages the hall & 
hunter holding company
merlyn is sent to a "graduate
merlyn is coordinator of voice studies at melbourne university
merlyn is designed to create and manipulate equations
merlyn is desperately holding on to his government conspiracy 
theories rather than getting involved and participating 
cooperatively in solutions
merlyn is rude
merlyn is determined to make lucas pay for his crimes and begins 
to pursue the sheriff throughout the town performing seemingly 
miraculous
Googlism for: merlyn

merlyn is an ex ghostwriter for many major tv shows
merlyn is very much alive and quiet willing to help you express 
your deepest feelings
merlyn is unhappy
merlyn is probably the most frustrating character to analyse in 
there are a couple of episodes and events which seem to 
contradict much of what we know about
merlyn is spelled
merlyn is a masterpiece from the mind of one of the greatest 
writers of the
merlyn is a leader of men
merlyn is now usually a pii/300 pc with windows 98 etc
merlyn is so doggy most of the time
merlyn is a spirit/angel and a guide to help keep caleb on the 
straight and narrow
merlyn is amused by ray's actions
merlyn is talking to caleb again
merlyn is from legends
merlyn is so devoted to weyland he cannot bare to be seperated 
from him
merlyn is back on the earth as a champion of man
merlyn is the story of merlyn kathleen ryan
merlyn is tutor to the young boy wart
merlyn is an autonomous agent that
merlyn is talking to ea he is still seeing blood everywhere and 
merlyn is trying to convince him not to help lucas
merlyn is trapped somewhere bad
merlyn is heading off to the pro tour next month in nice
merlyn is our newest joyful addition to our family
merlyn is a time
merlyn is also written by a scholar of the ancient teachings
merlyn is dedicated to spreading the influence of roman culture 
beyond the colony's borders
merlyn is a registered representative and lifemap  financial 
planner through thrivent investment management inc
merlyn is kept safe in arlow
merlyn is a series of writings which have come down to us as 
attributed through the pen of merlyn
merlyn is a great case in point
merlyn is an autonomous agent that also has an integrated 
personality and emotional model
merlyn is now capable of following "trains of thought" over 
longer spans of time
merlyn is arthur's tutor and friend
merlyn is really $randal
merlyn is fine
merlyn is married to elaine
merlyn is a
merlyn is the larger theatre in the malthouse
merlyn is just as loud and talkative as the siamese i used to 
have
merlyn is both teacher and course
merlyn is a milford native
merlyn is standing at stud
merlyn is lovely was fun seeing you guys at the spring fling and 
seeing pictures of tawny
merlyn is geen substituut voor een behandeling door een arts
merlyn is a corporate executive for an international 
construction firm
merlyn is a male kellen
merlyn is wearing her white dress and high heels
merlyn is a "magical"
merlyn is definitely the weapon of choice for pre
merlyn is in good race
merlyn is the suspicion that it might have been uther who 
brutally beat the waif whom merlyn will name cassandra after she 
violently resists uther's
merlyn is used by children and adults
merlyn is a good friend of mine
merlyn is a `magical` cream liqueur
merlyn is in reality
merlyn is a comfortable and fun combination of gandalf* and 
fizban**
merlyn is a wonderful dog that is very loyal and makes our other 
dogs behave
merlyn is shot by the pirates and patience is shot by sir 
humphrey
merlyn is lured away from arthur by a spirit and arthur is on 
his own
merlyn is doing her trademark hula
merlyn is 44 years old
merlyn is now accepting tour dates for the release of his new cd
merlyn is co
merlyn is stripped of his powers
merlyn is
merlyn is an innovative manager that is constantly looking for 
new opportunities to serve the producer base within his area
merlyn is perched in his usual location behind her shoulder
merlyn is hovering behind darkstar
merlyn is a graduate of the human services program
merlyn is his teacher and that because he is not a good thinker
merlyn is lured away from camelot by the sprightly nimue
merlyn is one of the most devastating books ever foisted onto 
the public in the name of "scholarship"
merlyn is a lighting rod sheltering belgrade
merlyn is such a funny old gentleman
merlyn is a great example of the increasing number of women who 
have chosen new and different occupations
merlyn is that same arthurian character we all know and love
merlyn is a complete introductory course in celtic druidism
merlyn is now custodian of the great dream of independent 
survival in britain
merlyn is a joy to work with
merlyn is far away
merlyn is also the liaison with relo  and she manages the hall & 
hunter holding company
merlyn is sent to a "graduate
merlyn is coordinator of voice studies at melbourne university
merlyn is designed to create and manipulate equations
merlyn is desperately holding on to his government conspiracy 
theories rather than getting involved and participating 
cooperatively in solutions
merlyn is rude
merlyn is determined to make lucas pay for his crimes and begins 
to pursue the sheriff throughout the town performing seemingly 
miraculous

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To:
Date: Wed Dec 4 16:55:44 2002

Message:
Googlism for: walter

walter is now officially
walter is dead
walter is the charles simon professor of applied financial
walter is sensing a clause for
walter is such a star
walter is very wrong here
walter is eight
walter is a microsoft certified trainer for mfc
walter is walking in the street of
walter is god
walter is in my backyard
walter is a real
walter is looking for
walter is the charles simon professor of applied financial 
economics at the stern school of business
walter is sensing a clause for concern by john edwards walter 
smith's hold on his job as everton manager was looking more 
precarious
walter is
walter is eight  2002
walter is a microsoft certified trainer for mfc and ole and 
holds six other microsoft certifications
walter is walking in the street of a little town in a sunny 
evening
walter is recognized
walter is a running grass and therefore capable of self
walter is purely a product of its popularity creating demand 
that often outstrips immediate
walter is age nine
walter is wonderful
walter is currently a math major but he?s switching to accounting
walter is a realtor in lexington
walter is special to me
walter is ready to go any time
walter is the muddy waters of the blues harp
walter is in the fifth grade
walter is obviously jealous of george
walter is thirty
walter is 875 yards shy of danny white's single
walter is a good catholic
walter is able to compute the difference between previously 
recorded audiovisuals and the currently acquired material
walter is punished dearly
walter is in need of a loving home in al
walter is an authority on international security
walter is walking toward home with caribbean take
walter is a familiar face within the wisconsin intercollegiate 
athletic conference
walter is portrayed as a lovable mutt
walter is an easy task
walter is victorious as the general of the huns
walter is always curious as to how lorenzo supports himself
walter is a very hard character to dislike
walter is out there
walter is the big question mark in section
walter is promoted to colonel
walter is a fantastically talented keyboardist
walter is very attracted to mitch
walter is the young black protagonist of the play
walter is an active member of the professional photographers of 
california; member of san francisco professional photographers 
of the greater bay area
walter is the main character or plays a very prominent role
walter is somewhat of a fixture in the community
walter is a many
walter is my given name
walter is a graduate of boston university
walter is first found in caswell county
walter is the founder and director of balance life gardens
walter is continuously "looking for ways to make the
walter is a true improviser as a vocalist who alters the melody 
line at will
walter is concerned about the $10
walter is still going strong
walter is an indoor cat
walter is at least 10 years old
walter is buried in a foreign field where he fell as was the 
british army tradition at the time
walter is my hero
walter is introduced by marian to lady eastlake
walter is a man who's obsessed and knows it
walter is a native of joplin
walter is a pound dog
walter is an excellent instructor
walter is a managing member of fonemed
walter is actively involved in the field of professional 
development and training
walter is the outgoing loudmouth
walter is now 79 years of age and in excellent health
walter is also an experienced broadcast field producer
walter is the first lt
walter is a frequent speaker for fortune 500 and fortune 1
walter is in a location near you
walter is the business/financial editor of wbbm newsradio 780
walter is a former faculty member and clinical supervisor of the 
traditional acupuncture institute
walter is a key supporter of rutgers athletics
walter is 15 years old on the day this novel starts
walter is een robo
walter is one of the premier weather education facilities in the 
midwest
walter is an accredited interim minister
walter is a traditional scale resin model of the real appendix 
quarter horse
walter is the editorial director of xml
walter is not studying wind patterns in the lab
walter is a three
walter is a very capable dive instructor
walter is not as profound as antoine de saint

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Date: Wed Dec 4 17:01:30 2002

Message:
Googlism for: los lobos

los lobos is da bomb
los lobos is just "la bamba" hasn't heard "kiko
los lobos is understood
los lobos is a band that doesn't ever stop reaching for the next 
level
los lobos is booked solid with gigs from now until roadside
los lobos is a group past their prime
los lobos is one of the best american rock bands
los lobos is an album that allows the
los lobos is unihabited and the wave breaks along the base of an 
old volcanoe
los lobos is located 3 km
los lobos is now a
los lobos is at work
los lobos is a perfect band for the festival because of its 
crossover appeal
los lobos is ageless
los lobos is touring in support of the new album "good morning
los lobos is as much on top of their game as they've ever been
los lobos is different things to different people
los lobos is a unique force in american music; a meeting place 
for many different styles that have been appropriated into the 
american pop scene
los lobos is one of the greatest bi
los lobos is dispensing will be heeded
los lobos is a bristol based skirmish team with over 16 members 
that shoot guns and down alcohol
los lobos is known for
los lobos is a small but potent sliver of the whole   we find 
the same
los lobos is one of the finest rock bands around
los lobos is known for renovations of its own
los lobos is many bands in one
los lobos is the best working band in america and has been since 
at least 1992
los lobos is one of the finest rock and roll bands working today
los lobos is comprised of louie perez
los lobos is loud live
los lobos is a hell of a lot more than the band that made the 
music for the movie la bamba
los lobos is one of the greatest bands to emerge from california
los lobos is one of three planned clusters; the other two are 
implemented at argonne national laboratory and the university of 
illinois
los lobos is the best rock 'n' roll band in america
los lobos is separeted from fuerteventura by a narrow 2km strait 
known as el rio and covers 15 km2 with the highest point being 
122m at the top of the volcanic
los lobos is separeted from
los lobos is a generation removed from these bands
los lobos is so good that even their "junk" tracks are first rate
los lobos is a band that exists to play live
los lobos is a classic period site located close to the center 
of the tequila valleys
los lobos is what's represented here
los lobos is earning them a well
los lobos is on the prowl
los lobos is included on;
los lobos is the bomb
los lobos is
los lobos is a kickin  live band
los lobos is actually a great rock 'n' roll band
los lobos is unquestionably america's best folk/rock/pop band
los lobos is rock
los lobos is still roaming musical paths with a sense of 
adventure
los lobos is set to rock the michigan theater tonight
los lobos is celebrating its 25th anniversary with good morning 
atzlan
los lobos is still best known for its highly recognizable 
crossover cover hit "la bamba
los lobos is back and the only thing i can say about this album 
is that you have to go to your record store and buy it before it 
is to late
los lobos is simply a latin band that occasionally rocks
los lobos is the greatest bar band the world has ever known
los lobos is always something
los lobos is their ability to cover a wide variety of musical 
styles on any given album they release
los lobos is certainly not an exception to that
los lobos is the premier band from east la
los lobos is a texmex band that appeals to music lovers of all 
kinds
los lobos is truly an all
los lobos is opening for jaguares; ticket price
los lobos is a part of
los lobos is still inspired
los lobos is still making critically
los lobos is east la's answer to the band
los lobos is just doing what it does best
los lobos is equally facile with rock
los lobos is highly underrated
los lobos is eclectic in the best sense of the word
los lobos is a direct inspiration for us
los lobos is david hidalgo
los lobos is in 25 jaar tijd uitgegroeid tot een van de 
constanten in de amerikaanse rock
los lobos is celebrating its 25
los lobos is to east los angeles
los lobos is one of
los lobos is best known for their hit song "la bamba" back in 
1987
los lobos is the premier american roots band
los lobos is hugely misunderstood by the masses and draws the 
most diverse crowd in rock and roll
los lobos is appearing click to check pollstar for all the los 
lobos tour dates
los lobos is not only a band producing popular music for the 
chicano community but an experimental group that has helped to 
insert traditional
los lobos is famous for
los lobos is most widely known for their hit contributions to

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To:
Date: Wed Dec 4 18:01:12 2002

Message:
From: om/cf 
To: Marie 
Date: Sat Nov 23 00:32:42 2002 
Message:
I'd gladly retreat to the days when gum was a problem and "so 
and so" wouldn't share.

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From: Facts Finder 
To: OM/Cf 
Subject: Chewing gum 
Date: Sat Nov 23 01:34:23 2002 
Message:
Huh? What do you mean, I don't understand. We do not have 
chewing gum here. Heard they want to lift the banned but I 
doubt so. 

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From: Everyman 
To: Facts Finder 
Subject: What?!? No Chewing Gum?? 
Date: Sat Nov 23 03:05:44 2002 
Message:
That's kind of strange.  Too many people leaving it on the 
ground, or what?  (did I miss something here?)

When my eighth grade teacher caught someone chewing gum she 
would draw a circle on the chalkboard & then said 'culprit' 
would have to put the gum on the end of their nose & stand on 
tip toes with their nose in the circle until the end of class.  
Unfortunate for the ones that got caught during roll call!

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From: arafat 
To: followers 
Date: Sat Nov 23 05:28:45 2002 
Message:
does anyone have any razor blades?

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From: Follower 
To: Arafat 
Subject: Blades 
Date: Sat Nov 23 05:34:04 2002 
Message:
Why ? Do you want to shave or slit your throat.

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From: Facts Finder 
To: Everyman 
Subject: Chewing gum 
Date: Sat Nov 23 06:49:11 2002 
Message:
Yes chewing gum was ban more than 10 years ago, but there are 
people who still buy and smuggle in for their own consumtion. 
If go they have to pay a very heavy fine.

At first there were a lot of disagreement to the ban but now 
everyone find that it was the right move, yes chewing gums 
customers are more to the younger generation and they would 
throw it anywhere or stick it in elevator, train doors and etc. 
This has cause a lot of headache for authority. When the gum 
are thrown on the floor after sometime they become black and so 
it destroy the beauty of the pavement. Anyone caught chewing 
gum will be ask to surrender the balance and throw it away. If 
you are caught throwing or sticking the gums anywhere you will 
be charge for vandalising and that can be quite heavy.

Basically, it just a habit, like cigarrette. When I was young I 
use to chew gum too. Now lesser people are chewing. Those that 
still chew are mainly tourists. Yes they will be warn if they 
are caught and their passport will be taken for future 
reference if they are caught again.

Have a wonderful weekend. Peace be with you.

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From: 
To: 
Date: Sat Nov 23 08:36:10 2002 
Message:
BAN ALL RELIGION

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From: Bush 
To: You 
Date: Sat Nov 23 08:42:25 2002 
Message:
Im going to the toilett
and you are with me,if not you are against me!  

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From: Bush 
To: You 
Date: Sat Nov 23 08:44:40 2002 
Message:
Im going to a gaybar
and you are with me,if not you are against me!

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From: Bush 
To: You 
Date: Sat Nov 23 08:46:30 2002 
Message:
Im going to fuck mr Powel
and you are with me,if not you are against me!

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From: Bush 
To: You 
Date: Sat Nov 23 09:00:39 2002 
Message:
Im going to destroy my country
and you are with me,if not you are against me

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From: Bush 
To: You 
Date: Sat Nov 23 09:02:33 2002 
Message:
Im going to destroy the demokracy
and you are with me,if not you are against me!

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From: 
To: 
Subject: NIMRODS 
Date: Sat Nov 23 09:09:39 2002 
Message:
JIMMY CARTER BILL CLINTON TOM DASCHLE  AL GORE

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From: 
To: 
Subject: Nimrods 
Date: Sat Nov 23 09:22:05 2002 
Message:
You just listed the top four problems with the democratic party


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From: om/cf 
To: Fact Finders 
Subject: gum 
Date: Sat Nov 23 09:48:51 2002 
Message:
I thought I read somewhere last week that the law in Singapore 
was changed so gum was available with a doctor's prescription. 
Of coarse in the U.S., the big controversy is the medical use 
of 
marijuana.

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From: sa27 
To: MADDOX 
Date: Sat Nov 23 13:22:06 2002 
Message:
AWWW, that's so sad. You are the typical whiner we have at my 
school. "I need a better computer! come on, it's so important! 
us nerds know exactly what's best for the school." In case you 
can't tell...Americans like football!! High school football 
makes lots of money: add together concessions, admission, and 
merchandise. How can computers make the school money? hmm... 
new 
computers are thousands of dollars, internet access, new 
programs. Seems that computers are more of a drain than a help. 
So, to sum up...take your little weiner out of the floppy 
drive, 
and quit bitching about how jocks get more attention to you. 
Oh, 
and by the way...If you really think that sports don't pay off, 
then simply take a look at Kobe Braynt's house.

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From: Facts Finder 
To: Om/Cf 
Subject: Chewing gum 
Date: Sat Nov 23 15:06:33 2002 
Message:
Yes I heard of it too, but not quite sure of the story. I miss 
that article. I am sure they are not putting back on the 
shelves. Maybe gum for people to exercise their jaw on medical 
purpose.

Like in my case, would you believe I could not open my jaw to 
bite the thickness of a cigarette box, so no hambugrger for me. 
If I were to eat burger, I have to seperately it into 3 
sections, the bread, the meat and the bread again. This was 
cause by the radio therapy. So far doctors have not offer me 
Wrigleys (is this the correct spelling for that famous chewing 
gum?)

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From: North Carolina Gal 
To: om/cf 
Date: Sat Nov 23 16:29:51 2002 
Message:
I wish they would legalize marijuana for medical use here. I 
have Multiple Sclerosis and have heard that it helps, But me 
being the chicken I haven't used it! If it were legal I woud in 
a heartbeat....

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From: om/cf 
To: NC Gal 
Date: Sat Nov 23 17:54:06 2002 
Message:
Good to hear from you. I had no idea you had M.S. A very good 
friend of mine since childhood was diagnosed with M.S. ten 
years 
back and he hasn't tried it either. I've heard marijuana helps 
cancer chemo patients cope with the nausea. Its insane - 
doctors 
will pump all kinds of manufactured narcotic painkillers into 
people but a naturally occuring plant is off limits.

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From: Fact Finder 
To: Om/Cf and NC Gal 
Date: Sat Nov 23 20:13:18 2002 
Message:
Yes nice to hear from you too NC Gal, Sorry to hear that. I 
don't know anything about MS. As for cancer, nowadays they 
inject a certain medicine to help prevent nausea but still some 
people still had that problem. I do not know what the medicine 
is. It might be marijuana. During my chemo treatment, I just 
had very mild nausea no vomitting. Maybe it was my experience 
with Marijuana during my teenage days. I know the doctor would 
spray cocaine into your nose to numb it to check inside.



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From: Facts Finder 
To: All 
Date: Sat Nov 23 20:26:05 2002 
Message:
Did you guys saw the interview in BBC regarding Iraq. I cannot 
remember their names. You can see the Iraqi minister is trying 
to win support from the world by repeating that the US attack 
on Hiroshima, Nagasaki and vietnam using weapon of mass 
destruction especially those countries that has doubt.

I just hope that the people wathching understand why US have to 
use those weapon? EVeryone should know that after the bombing 
in Japan the world war ended and the world was at peace again.

As for vietnam, I don't think US did use it full force as they 
did in Gulf War. If they did I don't think the Vietcont (North 
Vietnam) stand a chance. US was fighting with their hand tied 
and they learn from that mistake.

I just hope the media play a more responsible role before 
allowing that kind of statement to be made. You can see that 
the Iraqi minister was laughing behind.

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From: u |<now who 
To: NC GAL 
Date: Sat Nov 23 23:28:47 2002 
Message:
things are about to get scary on the board, are u in for the 
long hall? tell me what scares you?

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From: 
To: u |<now who 
Date: Sun Nov 24 00:57:15 2002 
Message:
WooooooOoooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo

So much power
A messege bord
What a little boy

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From: u turn 
To: u/<now who 
Date: Sun Nov 24 05:58:12 2002 
Message:
Student loan people are the scariest people on earth.       
       

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From: Comment 
To: Facts Finder 
Subject: Media 
Date: Sun Nov 24 07:53:50 2002 
Message:
In regards to what you here on the media , I wouldn't put too 
much faith in their ability to use discretion. The fact is they 
will do anything to promote good ratings. You have to keep in 
mind that CNN is a very liberal cable news network and FOX is 
conservitive but either one of them would do anything for 
ratings. Thw truth lies somewhere in between these two media 
giants.

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From: 
To: 
Date: Sun Nov 24 09:30:55 2002 
Message:
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Date: Sun Nov 24 09:32:18 2002 
Message:
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From: 
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Date: Sun Nov 24 09:42:16 2002 
Message:
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From: Void 
To: 
Date: Sun Nov 24 09:35:42 2002 
Message:
thousands of years ago stargate technology of the Gods was 
lost. 
Mayan Prophecy says it will return by 2012, along with our 
alignment with the center of our galaxy, the secret missing 
library of jesus, and the Exotic Elixer.

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From: A Pissed of American 
To: 
Date: Wed Nov 21 00:11:31 2001 
Message:
Didnt you ever notice that all terroists come from that shit 
hole they call the middle east. Maybe not all of them but a 
lot. If you dont want to go kick the shit out of them 
sandmonkeys then you crazy. We have so much power. Just go over 
there and drop a ouple of h-boimbs and stuff and then our 
problem is sovled. So the people that we wont stand for any of 
their bullshit antics. It might also set an example for anyone 
else who might want to pull some stupid ass stunt like this

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From: 
To: 
Date: Sun Nov 24 11:37:15 2002 
Message:
dfgdfgdgdfgdfgdfgdfgdfgdfgdfgdgdfgdgdfgfdg

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From: Facts Finder 
To: Comments 
Date: Sun Nov 24 12:04:00 2002 
Message:
yes I do agree, I don't really put much attenction to the 
media, CNN, BBC and etc. I view situation around the world with 
my own eyes, ears and understanding. Sometime I do feel tha 
maybe the western media was a little against the Muslims but 
with actual facts and figure. I can relized


But what I know for sure is that the Western media have not 
call for death to the Muslims or whatever to retaliate the 
killing of innocent civllians.

I would appreciate if some muslim would give me a reason what 
what is happening around the world today.


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From: Walter 
To: A Pissed of American 
Date: Sun Nov 24 13:58:38 2002 
Message:
Great!Now,have you joined the military yet?Or are you planning 
to go over there on your own?Please let us all know,because I'm 
sure you're not just sitting on your ASS,and telling others 
what 
THEY should do.
 

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From: Get a grip 
To: Walter 
Date: Sun Nov 24 14:35:04 2002 
Message:
Just a couple of H-Bombs... that's all, LOL!
  We have new ones that only kill sandmonkeys now! They have a 
x-
factor that can zero in on just the terrorists, and miss all 
the 
others. Just a little expensive considering. 

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From: Get a grip 
To: Facts Finder 
Date: Sun Nov 24 14:40:30 2002 
Message:
Muslims giving reason for what they are doing, fat chance. They 
are conditioned by their religion to beleive that they are fine 
to do what ever they want as long as it isn't against another 
muslim. So they think if they are painfull prickass dickheads, 
the rest of the world will just become Muslim to stop them from 
continuing their holy war. 
  I am not kidding you, this is the absolute height of Bigotry!
The Jews pale by comparison to the Muslim in the Muslim belief 
of self rightous MURDER. And all while pointing at the 
Christian 
and Jew, they spout their Satanic cult propaganda. 
  In a word .. Refromation is due! 
And mabye a couple of H-Bombs would do just that, but I doubt 
it. It takes being proven wrong for refromation to come, and 
it's coming. That you can rest assured is so. 

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From: Everyman 
To: 
Date: Sun Nov 24 16:30:20 2002 
Message:
Just caught part of a program where they were filming some 
nomadic group of Muslims; except the MEN had to wear veils.  
The 
women could divorce their husbands; but the husbands cannot 
divorce their wives.  

Turnabout's fair play?

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From: Everyman 
To: Facts Finder 
Date: Sun Nov 24 16:38:11 2002 
Message:
My TMJ acts up when I chew gum;  I've heard it that you can get 
rid of hiccups when you chew it, though...

NC Gal  Yes, it's true--I've seen interviews with people who 
have MS who have used MJ and they've said it's changed their 
lives for the better.  One woman who had little mobility was 
able to get out of her wheelchair and function on a level she 
hadn't been able to before.   (sound a bit like Oral Roberts?)



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From: North Carolina Gal 
To: Everyman 
Date: Sun Nov 24 17:22:42 2002 
Message:
I have seen some of those interviews also, and I know a couple 
of people who swear by it. My problem is I haven't a clue where 
to even try and get it! I guess I could ask my kids but then 
I'd 
never hear the end of it...LOL

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From: CC 
To: All 
Date: Sun Nov 24 17:35:42 2002 
Message:
What a %$^%$ joke.
Are you Americans really that pissed that one of Chretiens aids 
called Bush a Moron in a private conversation.
Come on!
We all know that Bush is a moron.
 

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From: Walter 
To: CC 
Date: Sun Nov 24 18:34:28 2002 
Message:
No,we all pray he's PRETENDING to be that be that stupid to 
fool the"EVILDOERS".

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From: a drunk fuckin midget 
To: you people 
Subject: walter 
Date: Sun Nov 24 19:17:59 2002 
Message:
walter has serious problems, try and be thoughtful 

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From: Walter 
To: CC 
Date: Sun Nov 24 19:27:29 2002 
Message:
Also,according to Homeland Security Act,Section V (4)(c),any 
conversation with persons from a foreign nation not pertaining 
to
(a)the greatness of our national leaders,or
(b)the understanding that Americans are the most compassionate 
people in the world;may be seen as a subversive act,subject to 
a 
fine of up to $250,000,or 25 years imprisonment.*

*does not apply to members of U.S.government on missions to 
sell/giveaway military secrets and/or weapons to members of 
foreign nations.

 If you want to talk in the future,leave your living room light 
on,with the shades 2/3 drawn,and I'll get in touch at 11P.M.the 
following evening.
 Must stop now:I'm going to go to the special bunker I've built 
in my basement,in order to smoke a cigar